There is a global pandemic of Caligynephobia (Fear of beautiful women.)
Movies, either portray beautiful women as vile evil vixen/vamps Or victims of extreme torture(those even remotely close(oxymoron) to them suffer tremendously.
Women are afraid to be beautiful because of a highly plugged non-existent high correlation between looks and rape. Men are afraid to be around beautiful women, for fear of adversity or betrayal.A number of religions ask women to hide their beauty,for the safety of their modesty. Society in general isn't as welcoming of a daughter as of a son. Are we really this scared?
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Had a brilliant career with movies like 'the parent trap' as a freckled pale yellow tooth-ed child. She made millions, was famous and loved. But then she grew up acquired a Hollywood tan, white teeth and dare I say it 'Beauty' ever since then she has been to rehab, dealt with all kinds of animosity and negative trivia.
I only made this argument because of the singular 'no-point' which gave her example as if it proves that beautiful women are not feared(I countered it here).
How does my writing points deter other people from doing so?
Yes and she still does have a great fan base. Most popular people take care of their looks.
Some very interesting points, albeit at times with considerable and unsubstantiated leaps of logic, but it's a real shame the proponent of this debate has limited any scope for real debate and discussion by submitting five or six 'for' arguments herself, which seems to defeat the apparent point of the site, which is to encourage meaningful discussion and debate. Perhaps the proponent might prefer to write an article and make reference to it.
Ugly women are not seen as a threat
When you are around women less comely looks-wise, you feel comfortable,relaxed and confident about your appearance and thus yourself. A gorgeous woman is intimidating for both men and women(straight,bi or gay). Straight women or gay men fear the competition. Lesbians and straight men fear rejection.
Take the theistic account of the story of Adam and Eve. Eve , though tempted just as Adam was, is punished with birth and menstruation pains(for her entire gender(minus barren women) as a result. Is there any account of this parable where Eve is plain/ugly?[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eve#Temptation.2C_fall.2C_and_expulsion_from_the_garden]]
And because of the thought of innocuousness prove to be a significant and powerful threat. You let your guard in front of both unattractive men and women, thinking they can't possibly! and they DO.
looks in men are not as valued as looks in women
There was ONE single example of a not-so-good-looking powerful successful woman in the eighties and now even Oprah Winfrey is reasonably attractive. Women are constantly urged to value and maintain their looks. Men like Stephan Hawking and Bill Gates need not be drop-dead gorgeous.
Men can always look at career and achievement as a way to measure their worth. They comfort themselves with that thought. They are not as threatened by 'pretty-boys' as women are by the female equivalent. The looks of a man are not half as feared or powerful as the looks of a woman.
Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, Zac Efron, Will smith, Salman Khan , Hritik Roshan, Bill Clinton,Ronald Regan, Matt Le Blanc, Mr.World, Mike Geary and countless others.
the fear of an attractive promiscuous daughter
Yes, an attractive girl is yelled at, a lot more frequently by parents for fear that she might be with the wrong kind of boys, that she'll be flimsy and non-serious. Majorly this is a self-fulfilling prophesy. Pretty girls are projected as uninterested in scholastic scholarship, wanting to be around flirty boys(easy achievement/reward) and are thus reprimanded preemptively. Ugly/plain girls might get into just as much trouble or more but are they feared/reprimanded/judged? NO
NO parent was a problem with an attractive or ugly boy sleeping around or flirting about and some are relieved to have a plain-looking daughter(as though that would automatically and unrealistically leave her single, career-oriented and studious for life).Newsflash: It does not.
People 'irrationally' fear beautiful girls in that regard irrespective of their personalities. Of course there is evidence, parents prefer you to be fat and think if you don't look good you must be socially dead, also a pretty girl is expected to have more admirers and thus a greater chance of becoming promiscuous.
And a lot of girls are very studious, very easy on the eyes and very promiscuous. Being Studious does not make you sexless.
A fear of an attractive promiscuous daughter does not logically lead to the conclusion that there is a global pandemic of Caligynephobia.
A fear of a promiscuous daughter would surely be based on said daughter's personality rather than her looks. A girl can easily be pretty and studious. It does not follow that her parents would be worried that she would be promiscuous. Further, a girl could be not be beautiful and still be promiscuous. It would depend on her personality type. It could be argued that someone was more likely to receive more attention from boys because she was attractive but this does not mean that she would act on this.
While there might be a fear of a promiscuous daughter, without firm evidence, it is hard to jump to the conclusion that there is more fear of an attractive promiscuous daughter and then from that reach the conclusion that there is therefore a global pandemic of Caligynephobia.
The fear of being tormented/envied for having an attractive wife/girlfriend
The 'I'm with a hot-in-demand girl' paranoia. The thought process of one such paranoid person go along the lines of "I'll have to deal with all kinds of guys fighting with me over her, I'll have to protect her from all kinds of problems related to lust, She is controlling me, she has too much power over me, I'm scared to death of losing her or being stuck with her forever...and on and on"
I've heard many a man claim a plain wife is a calming influence or that flings are for pretty people, steady relationships , life-time commitment and marriage is for the plain. I CLARIFY that I'm not saying that gorgeous people don't get married since the Beckhams (and millions of other debonair couples)stand to correct me but I am citing the general cliched notion of successful marriages or long-term relationships.
The joy of celebrating, boasting of, your very very attractive girlfriend/spouse.
Inequality, where it exists, is not a product of beauty
One of the key problems with the premise of this debate is that it tries to link its main argument, that people are afraid of beautiful women, with an altogether distinct idea, that a male child is preferred to a female one. The latter point holds particular ongoing relevance in China, Vietnam and other parts of South East Asia, (see, for example, Chapter 12 of David M Newman, 2006), and is an interesting and shifting debate in itself, but it's one that relates to economic and social hierarchy, rather than physical beauty. Similarly, the reference to the Islamic faith with the suggestion of 'safety of modesty' oversimplifies the factors leading to differential treatment of women and the foundations of patriarchal societies - after all, every woman is expected to abide by these rules, regardless of physical appeal!
So is fear of beauty driving social trends? It's an exaggeration to suggest beautiful women are presented as evil in the media - in fact, whilst there are of course memorable films and books with femme fatales, the stereotypically attractive female generally receives positive treatment in the media - would Lyndsey Lohan have maintained her fan base if she was dowdy and plain?
Secondly, whilst men and women's behaviour and emotions around each other of course sometimes involve fear of betrayal, it tends to be a product of insecurity within a relationship which relates more to the respective individuals' personalities, however attractive or unattractive the partner.
Is there inequality within society, which at times leads to mistreatment of women? Absolutely. However, where this occurs, it's a burden shared by women regardless of how beautiful or not they are, and if there are men or women out there experiencing caligynephobia, there's certainly little evidence to suggest this has a genuine impact on society.
This isn't about being portrayed in a positive or negative light, this is about being plugged incessantly to the point of being feared. Even if a beautiful woman is seen as good or loved, her beauty evokes an insecurity/fear because of the extreme plugging. The link of beauty with immodesty is not purely Islamic. Can you name a SINGLE ugly(in the opposite of beautiful-sense) porn star(male/female)? or Prostitute/stripper??
Buddhism,Hinduism both refer to All women as evil and treacherous (for getting pregnant, I suppose), Women cannot participate in many holy ceremonies. Excerpts from the holy Bible: [[http://www.broadcaster.org.uk/section2/transcript/marriage1.htm chapter6 book of proverbs]]-25 Do not desire her beauty in your heart, and do not let her capture you with her eyelashes; 26 for a prostitute's fee is only a loaf of bread, but the wife of another stalks a man's very life. 27 Can fire be carried in the bosom without burning one's clothes? 28 Or can one walk on hot coals without scorching the feet? 29 So is he who sleeps with his neighbor's wife; no one who touches her will go unpunished.
'In the New Testament, the Bible says to Christians:
2 Timothy chapter 2 (NLT)
22 Run from anything that stimulates youthful lust. Follow anything that makes you want to do right. Pursue faith and love and peace, and enjoy the companionship of those who call on the Lord with pure hearts.'
We are look-ist. We fear beauty, for we fear power.
You give the example of Lindsay Lohan as if you do NOT fear or anticipate being rejected by her, if ever you 'dared'!
and you should be afraid, read Micheal Crichton's 'Disclosure' or watch the movie(you might find this surprising, but it's based on a true story), if a gorgeous woman claims that she was harassed or stalked by you or any other person , she will be believed (as long as there is no solid irrefutable proof to counter her claim and there rarely is)
I'm not saying that the fear isn't legitimate, just that it's unhealthy: a disease.
Beautiful women still get married
It is still the ugly women who have trouble getting husbands rather than beautiful ones.
What do you think?