Modified:
13 Nov 2009
by Nadia999

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44%

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44%

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DEBATE: ALL PATENTS SHOULD BE REMOVED ON ANTI-RETROVIRAL DRUGS TO FIGHT AIDS

Every AIDS patient deserves humanitarian care and medicinal treatment, irrespective of where s/he is from or the laws of his/her Country. "In the case of Taxol, BMS claims to a bevy of patents on processes and patent regimes,blocking generic products in many countries." [[http://lists.essential.org/pharm-policy/msg00352.html]]

Defending: Nigeria

  • akinolam1
  • Anakounsou1
  • mojisola
  • prince1*

Opposing: Estonia

  • greenmonster
  • kajarkase
  • Läll-Läll
  • MarekSir
  • Silver*






ALL PATENTS SHOULD BE REMOVED ON ANTI-RETROVIRAL DRUGS TO FIGHT AIDS


Patents constitute physical and economic barriers to treatment of HIV/AIDS patients


This house believes that all patents should be removed from anti-retroviral drugs in order to fight AIDS. AIDS is an incurable disease which results from infection with the Human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). Anti-retroviral drugs (ARVs) are the only way to extend the lives of people infected by HIV. Without treatment most HIV/AIDS patients would die quickly, but treatment with ARVs can double their life expectancy, and also improve the quality of their lives. The patents on ARVs limit the freedom to manufacture these life-saving drugs and also hike the cost of treatment, thereby barring most patients from obtaining such treatment. Therefore, it is clear that the removal of patents on ARVs would remove two significant obstacles in the fight against AIDs: 1) Physical barriers to the treatment of HIV/AIDS patients 2) Economic barriers to the treatment of HIV/AIDS patients

Removal of Physical Barriers to the treatment of HIV/AIDS patients The patents on ARV drugs limit the manufacture of these drugs to a few companies and in some cases to certain countries. Consequently ARVS are not readily available to HIV/AID patients across the world. The removal of patents on ARVS would allow more companies and governments in affected countries to freely manufacture ARVS for the treatment of their citizens. Consequently, this would facilitate worldwide distribution of ARVS, and facilitate a ready supply of anti-retroviral drugs in all regions of the world.

Removal of Economic Barriers to the treatment of HIV/AIDS patients In so far as patents limit the availability of ARVS across the world, they create an artificial shortage which hikes ARV drug prices in all countries. In addition, in countries where ARVS are not manufactured, the cost of treatment is further hiked by drug importation costs, such as transport charges, freight costs, insurance, port duties, etc. As a result, ARV treatment is simply too expensive for most HIV/AIDS patients. The removal of patents on ARVS would not only prevent artificial shortages, it would also increase price competition and lower ARV drug prices to reasonable amounts. Lower treatment costs would lead to increased access to ARV treatment for all patients, irrespective of their personal wealth.

- Mojisola

The proposition assumes that the currently existing anti-retroviral drugs are sufficient for solving the HIV/AIDS problem.

The proposition team themselves points out that anti-retroviral drugs are not a cure for HIV/AIDS but simply a means of extending the lives of people suffering from HIV. Even for that the drugs we currently have are far from perfect: the drugs can have serious side effects[1], but moreover patients need to follow strict regimens in order for the treatment to work, not adhering to the regimen can cause the virus to develop resistance to the treatment[2]. This means there needs to be constant development work done on new drugs and treatment regimens to address these issues.

Regarding patents as economic barriers: There are other less harmful ways to make drugs more accessible to poor people. Such as funding from charities, foundations or international plans. Removing patents would allow generic drugs producers to produce anti-retroviral drug cheaply, because there is no ingredient in the drugs that justifies their high price, it is the years of work put into development that makes the expensive. Removing patents will mean further development work will cease because drug companies can no longer earn back the huge investment they need to make. Generic drug companies will not have effective drugs to produce in the future once the virus has become resistant to the treatments currently available, if there is no one to do the development. In the long run everyone is still worse off.

Removing patents will have no effect on "drug importation costs, such as transport charges, freight costs, insurance, port duties, etc". These are indeed actual barriers to spreading anti-retroviral drugs in poor countries, especially in Africa[3] and these cannot be addressed by the removal of patents.
  1. ^ http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/InSite?page=ar-05-01
  2. ^ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12617573
  3. ^ http://www.cid.harvard.edu/cidinthenews/articles/jama_101701.html


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ALL PATENTS SHOULD BE REMOVED ON ANTI-RETROVIRAL DRUGS TO FIGHT AIDS


The treatment of HIV/AIDS patients should not be restricted in order to make profit.


AIDS is a fatal and incurable disease. The treatment of people living with HIV/AIDS should be a humanitarian concern, rather than a basis for economic gain.

- Mojisola

Greed is good.

It is a simplistic approach to simply say that HIV/AIDS is incurable and fatal it is therefore unjust to be making a profit on anti-retroviral drugs. Almost any disease, if left untreated will result in death. We still think it is fine for developers of drugs to ask money for their work, just as we allow doctors to earn a pay for their work of saving people.

We will argue that by allowing drug companies to make a profit we are actually improving the situation of people with HIV/AIDS.

AIDS is a terrible condition that causes suffering. This suffering needs to be reduced. In order for this suffering to be reduced, anti-retroviral drugs are needed. These need to be first developed and then produced by large drug companies. People respond to incentives. The prospect for making a profit is an incentive. This prospect is guaranteed by patents on new drugs. This has been recognized by drug companies who in their pursuit for profit have developed a wide variety of anti-retroviral drugs that improve and extend the lives of many around the world.

In this case the greed of the pharmaceutical developers leads to the humanitarian ends of treating HIV/AIDS.


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ALL PATENTS SHOULD BE REMOVED ON ANTI-RETROVIRAL DRUGS TO FIGHT AIDS


Patents on ARVs prevent drug companies from collaborating in the search for a cure for AIDS


The current patents on anti-retroviral drugs are held by various pharmaceutical companies.

As long as the patents exist, it is unlikely that these companies will share their resources and information in order to develop a cure for AIDS. As a direct result, the AIDS epidemic has been fed and sustained by the patents on ARVs.

Thus, under the current patent regime, the profit 'incentive' is actually a disincentive to finding a cure for millions of HIV/AIDS victims.

In view of this fact, we believe that the opposition should concede that in the fight against AIDS, greed is bad.

- Mojisola

 


ALL PATENTS SHOULD BE REMOVED ON ANTI-RETROVIRAL DRUGS TO FIGHT AIDS


Importance of patents in incentivizing pharmaceutical research


In response to the opposition's argument that patents are important.

We think the opposition would agree that governments owe a duty of care to their citizens when a humanitarian crisis or emergency occurs.

AIDS is a global epidemic.

The AIDS epidemic has claimed more than 25 million lives since 1981.[1].

The statistics are frightening, but they speak for themselves: 1) As of 2007, about 33 million people worldwide were living with HIV/AIDS; developing countries accounted for 95% of this total. 2) Africa has 11.6 million AIDS orphans. 3) Young people (under 25 years old) account for half of all new HIV infections worldwide. 4) In developing and transitional countries, 9.7 million people are in immediate need of life-saving AIDS drugs; of these, only 2.99 million (31%) are receiving the drugs.[2]

It is apparent from these statistics that the AIDS epidemic is a humanitarian crisis. Consequently, governments worldwide have a duty to respond to this crisis by making ARV treatment fully accessible to their people through the removal of ARV patents.

During a crisis, economic gain ceases to be a consideration. This was the case with disasters such as the 2004 Asia tsunami, Hurricane Katrina in 2005, and the 1984/1985 famine in Ethiopia.

In the same vein, the humanitarian imperative to fight the AIDS epidemic and save lives far outweighs the economic gain that ARV patents represent to drug companies.

- Mojisola
  1. ^ UNAIDS 2008 Report on the global AIDS epidemic
  2. ^ Source: http://www.avert.org/worldstats.htm

In this argument we will first explain why patents are important in pharmaceutical research. Patents are a form of property protection that are necessary to ensure returns on the capital invested into inventions. Invention of new drugs requires an enormous investment of both intellectual and financial capital. However after a drug has been invented, then in the case of no patents, the company who invested into the research of the drug would have no advantage over other companies who might wish to produce that drug. The ability of the company to sell the drug wouldn't depend on whether the company invented it. This means that once the company has invented a drug it would have no ability to protect both the financial and intellectual capital it has invested into creating the drug.

Invention of new drugs is capital intensive for three main reasons:

1. It takes a long time to develop new drugs. This is mainly because of government regulation, which requires companies to extensively test the drug before it is marketed so it would be safe for the consumers. In this case government is imposing costs on pharmaceutical companies, it would only be fair if by granting patent protection the government would allow companies to get their investments back.

2. Stemming from the definition of the term “patent”, patents enable the disclosure of innovations into the public domain for the common good. Without this protection, the inventor might prefer to keep the innovation as a secret (called a trade secret). The act of awarding a patent makes the details of the invention public, enabling further improvement by other inventors. Furthermore, being published on public records ensures that the patentee’s idea won’t be lost to humanity.[1]

3. Pharmaceutical research is high risk. When starting work on a new drug there is no ability to tell if it will succeed. Many experimental drugs don't work or have adverse side-effects, however the company still has to cover their costs. Through trial and error process, effective drugs eventually emerge, but when they are sold by the company their cost has to include the cost of the failed drugs born by the company. This is because the company has to stay afloat, pay the salaries of it's scientists, secretaries, janitors.

4. In several industries (such as pharmaceuticals), once an invention exists, the cost of commercialization is far less than the initial cost of conception. Unless there is some way to prevent copies from competing at the marginal cost of production, companies will not make that productization investment and simply neglect their idea.[2]

Given this analysis we want to prove that patents are good and necessary in terms of encouraging research. Considering the amount of work and money companies put into research and the social good that comes out of the development of new drugs companies have the right to spread the cost of their research over the period of the patent. Governments have to ensure this right, otherwise why should the companies be expected to develop drugs, if they can't reap the fruits of their labor? Quite simply if governments don't provide patent protection companies won't conduct research.

We think the proposition would agree with us that patents are generally necessary and important and that companies have a right to their inventions. Otherwise they would propose abolishing all pharmaceutical patents, but the motion states abolishing patents only on anti-retroviral drugs to fight AIDS.
  1. ^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent#Effects
  2. ^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_and_patents


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ALL PATENTS SHOULD BE REMOVED ON ANTI-RETROVIRAL DRUGS TO FIGHT AIDS


Theft is bad


In response to the opposition's argument that theft is bad, we think that the opposition would agree that the word ‘theft’ would only apply to the unauthorised manufacture of ARV (anti-retroviral) drugs, where patents exist.

Our argument is that patents on ARV drugs should be removed.

If patents on ARVs are removed, these drugs could be freely manufactured by anyone and this would not constitute theft.

- Mojisola

In our first argument we showed why patents in general are necessary for incentivizing pharmaceutical research and that they are a legitimate property right. The proposition case would be for making a one-off exemption for anti-retroviral drugs. They would be doing this not because patents in general are bad, but because AIDS is a special case. Why is AIDS a special case? Surely it is not because of the ethics of AIDS being a life-threatening disease, there are many other life-threatening diseases, but we wouldn't abolish patents on their medication, because it would stymie the innovation in the drugs for those diseases. AIDS is a special case, because it's such a significant political issue and is such a visible and big problem. The proposition has to concede that patents are a legitimate property right, so the issue in this debate is really who should pay for alleviating AIDS?

What proposition's case really would be is that we should finance the mitigation of AIDS by stealing money and work from the companies who created the anti-retroviral drugs. This is clearly illegitimate. Essentially this is theft from the few to fuel a public will. These few are mainly the shareholders of the pharmaceutical companies, which include old ladies who have put their pensions in the stocks of the company. Through such theft the pharmaceutical companies would not get anything in return for their investments and labor, not even any political capital and goodwill, because that would be gobbled up by the government who goes through with this motion.

Our argument is that if governments and societies believe that AIDS is such a serious issue, then they should support charities, foundations and initiatives (such as Elton John's[1], Elizabeth Taylor's[2]) or international plans such as PEPFAR[3][4] (created and promoted by George Bush) to tackle the disease. Funds accumulated through such schemes could be used to purchase the anti-retroviral drugs at market price and distribute them among the infected.

  1. ^ http://www.ejaf.org/
  2. ^ http://www.elizabethtayloraidsfoundation.org/
  3. ^ http://media.www.vanderbiltorbis.com/media/storage/paper983/news/2008/12/10/Newsfeatures/George.Bushs.AidsFighting.Legacy-3578911.shtml
  4. ^ http://www.pepfar.gov/


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ALL PATENTS SHOULD BE REMOVED ON ANTI-RETROVIRAL DRUGS TO FIGHT AIDS


There's no such thing as a one-off exemption


 

In this argument we will explain why it is damaging for the government to undermine its patent credibility.

Patents are property rights that ensure companies with a monopoly of the product for a period of time and they act as an incentive to research. But they work only when people and companies trust the government to ensure those property rights. Making a one-off exemption would undermine the government patent credibility. Making a one-off exemption would be detrimental, because companies would not necessarily perceive it as a one-off exemption. They would no longer be sure of government's legal protection of the capital that they invest into research and invention. This would be harmful to all patent industries, because people would then be afraid of investing their money into these industries.

Even if that doesn't happen and people perceive abolishing patents only in extreme cases, it's still bad to do this. This would set a precedent for abolishing pharmaceutical patents for diseases that meet certain conditions like AIDS. These would be diseases that are life-threatening, impact a large number of people and require long-term medication. In these cases the people would expect the government to drop patent protection. Even if this motion solves the problem of AIDS, then what happens when new diseases emerge? Companies would then be unlikely to spend money on developing drugs for these dire conditions. Private companies, however, are the fastest, most efficient way of developing drugs. To explain this we have to look at alternative institutions that might develop drugs. These are government institutions and universities. If pharmaceutical research is constrained to these areas then there are three big issues that arise:

1. Fewer types of drugs will be created.

2. Drugs are created more slowly.

3. There will be less upgrading for existing treatment.

These problems all arise, because for these institutions there is no comparable incentive to private businesses. For pharmaceutical companies it is profitable to develop many different kinds of drugs and upgrade existing treatment, whereas the government will invest only enough to produce a sufficient cure, even if it isn't the best cure. This is especially problematic in the case of anti-retroviral drugs since retroviruses (like HIV) have a high rate of mutation, developing resistance to drugs very quickly, stressing the need for constant development.[1] Also there is no race to drive these institutions, where as pharmaceutical companies because of the competition that exists between them have the incentive to put maximum effort into coming out with a new drug, to be the first to dominate the market.

So disincentivizing companies to work on new life-threatening diseases, takes away our most efficient and fastest way for developing drugs. This impedes our ability to deal with health problems that arise in the future and that is harm to everybody in the world and to future generations, since everybody has the risk of contracting these diseases.

But even if people and companies would perceive this as a one-off exemption for AIDS then it's still harmful. People would then think (and it would probably be the case) that there's little investment in the private sector for AIDS drugs. That hurts everyone who has AIDS, because it damages their future prospects and feeling of security.
  1. ^ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12456349



 
 

Vote on the overall debate: All patents should be removed on anti-retroviral drugs to fight AIDS

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1. Patents constitute physical and economic barriers to treatment of HIV/AIDS patients
# 1

This house believes that all patents should be removed from anti-retroviral drugs in order to fight AIDS. AIDS is an incurable disease which results from infection with the Human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). Anti-retroviral drugs (ARVs) are the only way to extend the lives of people infected by HIV. Without treatment most HIV/AIDS patients would die quickly, but treatment with ARVs can double their life expectancy, and also improve the quality of their lives. The patents on ARVs limit the freedom to manufacture these life-saving drugs and also hike the cost of treatment, thereby barring most patients from obtaining such treatment. Therefore, it is clear that the removal of patents on ARVs would remove two significant obstacles in the fight against AIDs: 1) Physical barriers to the treatment of HIV/AIDS patients 2) Economic barriers to the treatment of HIV/AIDS patients

Removal of Physical Barriers to the treatment of HIV/AIDS patients The patents on ARV drugs limit the manufacture of these drugs to a few companies and in some cases to certain countries. Consequently ARVS are not readily available to HIV/AID patients across the world. The removal of patents on ARVS would allow more companies and governments in affected countries to freely manufacture ARVS for the treatment of their citizens. Consequently, this would facilitate worldwide distribution of ARVS, and facilitate a ready supply of anti-retoviral drugs in all regions of the world.

Removal of Economic Barriers to the treatment of HIV/AIDS patients In so far as patents limit the availability of ARVS across the world, they create an artificial shortage which hikes ARV drug prices in all countries. In addition, in countries where ARVS are not manufactured, the cost of treatment is further hiked by drug importation costs, such as transport charges, freight costs, insurance, port duties, etc. As a result, ARV treatment is simply too expensive for most HIV/AIDS patients. The removal of patents on ARVS would not only prevent artificial shortages, it would also increase price competition and lower ARV drug prices to reasonable amounts. Lower treatment costs would lead to increased access to ARV treatment for all patients, irrespective of their personal wealth.

- Mojisola

mojisola

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18:53, 12 August 09

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Karma Score: 36

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Applause: 1


# 2

The proposition's argument in this case assumes four things:

1.

2. Removal of patents would result in low-cost production of anti-retroviral drugs all over the world. In response to this we say that since the synthesis of anti-retroviral drugs is very high tech (unlike some of the more simpler compounds such as aspirin), the barriers to producing the drugs in countries all over the world would still be significant. These countries would first have to develop the capability to manufacture such drugs. This means nurturing a biotechnology sector, employing highly educated stuff, buying expensive equipment. It is dangerous to produce such drugs in countries where the biotechnology sector is not developed and governmental regulation is weak, because this may result in drugs that are below standards and dangerous for the consumers. If the drugs aren't produced locally then by their own argument importation costs would still remain,

3.

greenmonster

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16:31, 13 August 09

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Karma Score: 618


2. The treatment of HIV/AIDS patients should not be restricted in order to make profit.
# 1

AIDs is an incurable disease, the treatment of which should be a humanitarian concern, rather than a basis for economic gain.

- Mojisola

mojisola

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19:00, 12 August 09

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Karma Score: 36

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Applause: 1


# 2

It is a simplistic approach to simply say that HIV/AIDS is incurable and fatal it is therefore unjust to be making a profit on anti-retroviral drugs. We will argue that by allowing drug companies to make a profit we are actually improving the situation of people with HIV/AIDS. AIDS is a terrible condition that causes suffering. This suffering needs to be reduced. In order for this suffering to be reduced, anti-retroviral drugs are needed. These need to be first developed and then produced by large drug companies. People respond to incentives. The prospect for making a profit is an incentive. This prospect is guaranteed by patents on new drugs. This has been recognized by drug companies who in their pursuit for profit have developed a wide variety of anti-retroviral drugs that improve and extend the lives of many around the world. In this case the greed of the pharmaceutical developers leads to the humanitarian ends of treating HIV/AIDS. Removing patents will remove the ability of companies to protect their creations therefore removing the incentive to develop the drugs. It would give generic drugs companies the ability to produce the drugs that are available currently. But without the protection of patents, new anti-retroviral drugs will less likely be developed. They will certainly be developed less quickly and less frequently. We have already stressed how important it is to have constant development work for pharmaceuticals of any kind, especially anti-retroviral drugs - because retroviruses have a high rate of mutation and develop resistance to drugs quickly.

Silver

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18:18, 13 August 09

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Karma Score: 142


3. Patents on ARVs prevent drug companies from collaborating in the search for a cure for AIDS
# 1

The current patents on anti-retroviral drugs are held by various pharmaceutical companies.

As long as the patents exist, it is unlikely that these companies will share their resources and information in order to develop a cure for AIDS. As a direct result, the AIDS epidemic has been fed and sustained by the patents on ARVs.

Thus, under the current patent regime, the profit 'incentive' is actually a disincentive to finding a cure for millions of HIV/AIDS victims.

In view of this fact, we believe that the opposition should concede that in the fight against AIDS, greed is bad.

- Mojisola

mojisola

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03:46, 15 August 09

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Karma Score: 36


1. Importance of patents in incentivizing pharmaceutical research
# 1

In this argument we will first explain why patents are important in pharmaceutical research. Patents are a form of property protection that are neccessary to ensure returns on the capital invested into inventions. Invention of new drugs requires an enormous investment of both intellectual and financial capital. However after a drug has been invented, the company who invested into the research of the drug has no advantage over other companies who might wish to produce that drug. The ability of the company to sell the drug doesn't depend on whether the company invented it. This means that once the company has invented a drug it has no ability to protect both the financial and intellectual capital it has invested into creating the drug. Invention of new drugs is capital intensive for three main reasons: 1. It takes a long time to develop new drugs. This is mainly because of government regulation, which requires companies to extensively test the drug before it is marketed so it would be safe for the consumers. In this case government is imposing costs on pharmaceutical companies, it would only be fair if by granting patent protection the government would allow companies to get their investments back. 2. Pharmaceutical research is on the forefront of technology and new developments there require the most specialized equipment and expertise. This makes it very expensive. 3. Pharmaceutical research is high risk. When starting work on a new drug there is no ability to tell if it will succeed. Many experimental drugs don't work or have adverse side-effects, however the company still has to cover their costs. Through trial and error process, effective drugs eventually emerge, but when they are sold by the company their cost has to include the cost of the failed drugs born by the company. This is because the company has to stay afloat, pay the salaries of it's scientists, secretaries, janitors.

Given this analysis we want to prove that patents are good and neccessary in terms of encouraging research. Considering the amount of work and money companies put into research and the social good that comes out of the development of new drugs companies have the right to spread the cost of their research over the period of the patent. Governments have to ensure this right, otherwise should the companies be expected to develop drugs, if they can't reap the fruits of their labor? Quite simply if governments don't provide patent protection companies won't conduct research.

greenmonster

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08:45, 11 August 09

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Karma Score: 618


# 2

In response to the opposition's argument that patents are important.

We think the opposition would agree that governments owe a duty of care to their citizens when a humanitarian crisis or emergency occurs. AIDS is a global epidemic.

The AIDS epidemic has claimed more than 25 million lives since 1981.[1].

The statistics are frightening, but they speak for themselves: - As of 2007, about 33 million people worldwide were living with HIV/AIDS; developing countries accounted for 95% of this total. - Africa has 11.6 million AIDS orphans. - Young people (under 25 years old) account for half of all new HIV infections worldwide. - In developing and transitional countries, 9.7 million people are in immediate need of life-saving AIDS drugs; of these, only 2.99 million (31%) are receiving the drugs.[2]

It is apparent from these statistics that the AIDS epidemic is a humanitarian crisis. Consequently, governments worldwide have a duty to respond to this crisis by removing patents from life-saving ARV drugs in order to make ARV treatment fully accessible to their people living with HIV/AIDS.

During a crisis, economic gain ceases to be a consideration. This was the case with disasters such as the 2004 Asia tsunami, Hurricane Katrina in 2005, and the 1984/1985 famine in Ethiopia.

In the same vein, the humanitarian imperative to fight the AIDS epidemic and save lives far outweighs the economic gain that ARV patents represent to drug companies.

  1. ^ UNAIDS 2008 Report on the global AIDS epidemic
  2. ^ Source: http://www.avert.org/worldstats.htm

mojisola

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21:59, 12 August 09

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Karma Score: 36


2. Theft is bad
# 1

In our first argument we showed why patents in general are neccessary for incentivizing pharmaceutical research and that they are a legitimate property right. The proposition case (which they didn't bring) would be for making a one-off exemption for anti-retroviral drugs. They would be doing this not because patents in general are bad, but because AIDS is a special case. Why is AIDS a special case? Surely it is not because of the ethics of AIDS being a life-threatening desease, there are many other life-threatening deseases, but we wouldn't abolish patents on their medication, because it would stimy the innovation in the drugs for those deseases. AIDS is a special case, because it's such a significant political issue and is such a visible and big problem. The proposition has to concede that patents are a legitimate property right, so the issue in this debate is really who should pay for alleviating AIDS?

What proposition's case really would be is that we should finance the mitigation of AIDS by stealing money and work from the companies who created the anti-retroviral drugs. This is clearly illegitimate. Essentially this is theft from the few to fuel a public will. These few are mainly the shareholders of the pharmaceutical companies, which include old ladies who have put their pensions in the stocks of the company. Through such theft the pharmaceutical companies would not get anything in return for their investments and labor, not even any political capital and goodwill, because that would be gobbled up by the government who goes through with this motion.

Our argument is that if governments and societies believe that AIDS is such a serious issue, then they should use the funds accumulated through collective taxation to purchase the anti-retroviral drugs at market price and distribute them among the sick people.

greenmonster

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09:16, 11 August 09

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Karma Score: 618


# 2

In response to the opposition's argument that theft is bad, we think that the opposition would agree that the word ‘theft’ would only apply to the unauthorised manufacture of ARV (anti-retroviral) drugs, where patents exist.

Our argument is that patents on ARV drugs should be removed.

If patents on ARVs are removed, these drugs could be freely manufactured by anyone and this would not constitute theft.

mojisola

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21:30, 12 August 09

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Karma Score: 36


3. There's no such thing as a one-off exemption
# 1

In this argument we will explain why it is damaging for the government to undermine it's patent credibility. Patents are property rights that ensure companies with a monopoly of the product for a period of time and they act as an incentive to research. But they work only when people and companies trust the government to ensure those property rights. Making a one-off exemption would undermine the government patent credibility. Making a one-off exemption would be detrimental, because companies would not neccessarily perceive it as a one-off exemption. They would no longer be sure of government's legal protection of the capital that they invest into research and invention. This would be harmful to all patent industries, because people would then be afraid of investing their money into these industries.

Even if that doesn't happen and people perceive abolishing patents only in extreme cases, it's still bad to do this. This would set a precedent for abolishing pharmaceutical patents for deseases that meet certain conditions like AIDS. These would be deseases that are life-threatening, impact a large number of people and require long-term medication. In these cases the people would expect the government to drop patent protection. Even if this motion solves the problem of AIDS, then what happens when new deseases emerge? Companies would then be unlikely to to spend money on developing drugs for these dire conditions. Private companies however are the fastest, most efficient way of developing drugs. To explain this we have to look at alternative institutions that might develop drugs. These are government institutions and universities. If pharmaceutical research is constrained to these areas then there's three big issues that arise:

1. Fewer types of drugs will be created.

2. Drugs are created more slowly.

3. There will be less upgrading for existing treatment.

These problems all arise, because for these institutions there is no comparable incentive to private bussinesses. For pharmaceutical companies it is profitable to develop many different kinds of drugs and upgrade existing treatment, whereas the government will invest only enough to produce a sufficient cure, even if it isn't the best cure. Also there is no race to drive these isntitutions, where as pharmaceutical companies because of the competition that exists between them have the incentive to put maximum effort into coming out with a new drug, to be the first to dominate the market.

So disincentivizing companies to work on new life-threatening deseases, takes away our most efficient and fastest way of developing drugs. This impedes our ability to deal with health problems that arise in the future and that is harm to everybody in the world and to future generations, since everybody has the risk of contracting these deseases.

But even if people and companies would perceive this as a one-off exemption for AIDS then it's still harmful. People would then think (and it would probably be the case) that there's little investment in the private sector for AIDS drugs. That hurts everyone who has AIDS, because it damages their future prosepects and feeling of security.

greenmonster

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09:46, 11 August 09

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Karma Score: 618


# 2

Absolutely and perfectly true patents are extremely important and as a believer in the free market I acknowledge that drug companies need to recoup their investment. I certainly as a shareholder of a drug company would require them to ensure that we get an excellent return on our investments.

This debate however must be seen in the light of the scourge that AIDS has brought to the developing world and it cannot be quantified looking solely at the bottom line. The proposition as you have stated is purely in respect of ARV and not all drugs. This is an important and necessary distinction. AIDS has ravaged whole communities in the developing world and is spreading throughout the former Communist countries of Eastern Europe. In these countries where average incomes are far less than in Western Europe being able to access ARV is crucially important. It is in effect a Pandemic and desperate times calls for desperate measures.

If money is the only pursuit that drug companies and society as a whole believes in then why did Marie Curie, Louis Pasteur and Alexander Fleming all toil night and day not for their sole grandeur but for the common good. How can we all sit back and watch an innocent baby born of a drug addict mother live a life less ordinary than the ones we have lived. Our opponents have looked at everything purely in financial terms of big drug companies losing money and the little baby born to a heroin junkie mother stealing big drugs patents. That is an easy picture to paint but our opponents have not looked at what really matters – lives, people, the bricks and mortar of this world.

How then does one fund billions of dollars of research? Look at the UK the Welcome Trust funds over $1bn in research annually and it is a registered charity. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Warren Buffet, and countless less well know foundations give billions of dollars to research AIDS every year. Think of buying one less nuclear missile and think of one less shuttle mission to space. The world should prioritise its needs like every household does.

akinolam1

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14:11, 12 August 09

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