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DEBATE: THE EU SHOULD MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR ANY EU CITIZEN TO GO TO ANY HOSPITAL IN THE EU AND HAVE THE DOCTOR TREATING THEM ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR MEDICAL RECORDS INSTANTLY.
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Europeans are increasingly travelling around Europe, this in turn leads to an increase in the demand for the medical facilities that are available throughout Europe while we are in foreign countries, how do those facilities treat us properly without our medical records? If there is to be free movement of people around the EU then the free movement of our medical records seems like a necessity.
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THE EU SHOULD MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR ANY EU CITIZEN TO GO TO ANY HOSPITAL IN THE EU AND HAVE THE DOCTOR TREATING THEM ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR MEDICAL RECORDS INSTANTLY.
It will help prevent mistakes in treatment
There is an obvious need to reduce the incidence of avoidable deaths due to medical interventions, adverse drug effects and preventable injuries. In the NHS there almost a million patient safety incidents, and potentially up to tens of thousands of deaths (although the precice number is unknown), around 50% of these incidents could have been avoided if lessons from previous incidents had been learnt.[1] Obviously IT can’t do anything about falls however accessible medical records can bring important gains in terms of access (facilitating information for patients and health professionals, improving contacts with health professionals, and avoiding unnecessary transportation), and quality (making pertinent medical information available for prevention and diagnosis.[2].
- ^ Executive Summary, A Safer Place for Patients: learning to improve patient safety, National Audit Office, 3rd November 2005, http://www.nao.org.uk/publications/0506/a_safer_place_for_patients.aspx?alreadysearchfor=yes
- ^ Connected Health Quality and Safety for European Citizens, Unit ICT for Health, 2006, p.16 http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/activities/health/docs/policy/interoperability_report_final092006-cover.pdf
Ross Anderson, a Cambridge University security engineering professor says the scheme is unnecessary and could even be counterproductive. "If you're somebody with information that should be known, at present you will carry either a bracelet or a card in your wallet to say so. It is foolish to move to a computer for the simple reason that, if you have the information either on an online database or sitting on a smartcard, then the computer could be down. Human-readable information which you can carry is the most appropriate technology."[1]
- ^ David Meyer, Anger over EC medical data-sharing scheme,26th Jan 2007, http://news.zdnet.co.uk/itmanagement/0,1000000308,39285644,00.htm
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THE EU SHOULD MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR ANY EU CITIZEN TO GO TO ANY HOSPITAL IN THE EU AND HAVE THE DOCTOR TREATING THEM ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR MEDICAL RECORDS INSTANTLY.
European Market for Health
There is the beginning of a Europe wide free market for healthcare. Under EU schemes for health patients will be able to travel abroad for treatment, those who go to the Continent are to retain their full status as NHS patients - allowing them to keep their place in queues for physiotherapy and other recuperative care. Androula Vassiliou, the Health Commissioner, says “Patients will be able to receive treatment in any member state, which will be reimbursed at home up to the level of the same or similar treatment in their health system... Patients from any country will enjoy equal treatment with the nationals of the country in which they are being treated and cannot be discriminated against... It will allow excessive demand from one country to be met by excessive capacity in another country. This is the essence of the cooperation.”[1] This would mean a lot of travel for medical treatment; obviously records etc would have to go too, and may lead to more than one health service having need for records. This would be made much simpler if the records were already available everywhere.
- ^ David Charter, Brussels offers NSH patients Europe wide treatment, The Times, 3rd July 2008, http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article4255880.ece
Even if there is the beginning of a free market for health care in Europe it's benefits are only going to be beneficial for those that can afford to pay the upfront costs of the services charged. John Trickett a Labour MP said that "“This directive would undermine the fundamental principles of the NHS, impose unnecessary burdens of cost and bureaucracy, overrule clinical priorities and worsen health inequalities."[1]All of this leads to the question: Should we be actively playing a part developing a European healthcare market or discouraging it by refusing to develop and implement such a type of system like the one proposed?
- ^ David Charter, Brussels offers NSH patients Europe wide treatment, The Times, 3rd July 2008, http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article4255880.ece
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THE EU SHOULD MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR ANY EU CITIZEN TO GO TO ANY HOSPITAL IN THE EU AND HAVE THE DOCTOR TREATING THEM ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR MEDICAL RECORDS INSTANTLY.
Increasing Demand
Europe's population is ageing, since Citizens aged 65 and over account for 30% to 40% of healthcare spending—far more than any other population group and this group are increasingly likely to retire to another country or spend extended periods travelling so are becoming more likely to be injured or taken ill while within another EU state.[1] This is creating a rapidly rising demand for healthcare, particularly away from the home country of a patient. At the same time there is greater movement within the EU for commerce, recreation and study. Also citizens and patients are demanding healthier lifestyles in combination with the provision of better, higher quality healthcare that still has to be economic as it is paid for by the taxpayer.
- ^ Affordability and Sustainable Healthcare in Europe, European Generic Medicines Association, http://www.egagenerics.com/gen-economics.htm
Some people may want to travel outside Europe for treatment such as India or get injured in another country outside of the European Union. The question isn't whether the demand is growing it's who treats that demand and how much can they be treated by. Currently the UK allows its citizens to be away from the UK for six months and still receive free health-care on the N.H.S which means that if a person sustains or requires treatment like a hip replacement they can go back to the UK and be treated which eases strain on European services.
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THE EU SHOULD MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR ANY EU CITIZEN TO GO TO ANY HOSPITAL IN THE EU AND HAVE THE DOCTOR TREATING THEM ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR MEDICAL RECORDS INSTANTLY.
It will never work
Just because something is impossible now does not mean it should not be looked at as something to be developed for the future . At the very least the EU should consider contracting companies to undertake research and development into developing such a system learning from the problems encountered by the NHS in developing it's own system. Also some famous projects such as the construction of the Channel Tunnel encountered problems in their construction and initial years but have become a success.
Interoperability is not yet even possible within the UK so how much more difficult will that task be to make it happen across the whole of Europe. In the UK an attempt to create a similar system is more than four years late and has problems with contractors pulling out.[1]
- ^ Rosa Prince, National NHS database plans delayed again, Telegraph, 29th May 2008, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2047231/National-NHS-database-plans-delayed-again.html
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THE EU SHOULD MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR ANY EU CITIZEN TO GO TO ANY HOSPITAL IN THE EU AND HAVE THE DOCTOR TREATING THEM ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR MEDICAL RECORDS INSTANTLY.
Cost
For policy makers value in health for ICT has been cost reduction and cost savings, particularly in the current context of an inevitable rise in demand in the amount of GDP spent on healthcare. So the whole point of the scheme is that it will result in some cost savings. If it reduces the number of mistakes, and the time spent treating patients then it results in savings in wages for doctors and nurses, drugs costs etc. Such a system would also mean a rationalisation of the records of European patients and potentially the records systems. Due to economies of scale, and meaning that the development costs would be shared this means that in the long run investing in the technology reduces costs that otherwise each member state would slowly do haphazardly anyway. However IT systems main benefit in terms is qualitative rather than the savings they make but in allowing better treatment of the patients.[1]
- ^ David Lloyd-Williams, Looking to the Future - the Added value of eHealth, Silicon Bridge Research, 2006, http://www.siliconbridge.co.uk/art_Added_Value_of_eHealth.html
The EU scheme has been dubbed little more than a "covert industrial subsidy" with money going "to whoever is closest to the Commission". In a recession such a broad and ambitious scheme is not possible, it is simply too costly for already overburdened finances. The NHS electronic records database is supposed to cost £6.2 billion, already an immense sum however newspaper reports widely put the cost at £12 billion and a health minister has admitted that the final cost could be closer to £20 billion when extra needs to be spent on training staff, buying PCs and upgrading existing systems over the course of the project.[1]
- ^ Staggering £20billion cost of NHS records revealed, Daily Mail, 31st May 2006, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-388382/Staggering-20billion-cost-NHS-records-revealed.html
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THE EU SHOULD MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR ANY EU CITIZEN TO GO TO ANY HOSPITAL IN THE EU AND HAVE THE DOCTOR TREATING THEM ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR MEDICAL RECORDS INSTANTLY.
Privacy and Security
These records will only be available to health workers, so why should we be less trusting of a French doctor with our medical records than we are with a British doctor, they all follow patient – doctor confidentiality and the chances of accidental loss is probably no greater either.
There are over five million health workers in the EU who would all have access to the information. The sheer size of the project makes security a major problem. Gerard Comyn, Head of Unit ICT for Health has confirmed that "it will be up to the member states to take appropriate actions on security and make sure the level of security they choose is in line with the national levels". This may well mean that the security in some countries is better than others, which in turn might leave the whole system vulnerable if one state cuts corners in its funding for security creating a weak link. We are already worried about the implications of a national database in the UK. For the NHS scheme Dr Paul Thornton said "The danger with this system is that there's no GP or other professional with the clear responsibility to protect the information they have collected, and therefore civil liberties are very much in jeopardy".[1]
- ^ Privacy fears over NHS database, BBC News, 30th March 2005, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4392555.stm
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