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DEBATE: THAT WE SHOULD PENALISE COMPANIES THAT PROP UP THE BURMESE REGIME BY DOING BUSINESS IN BURMA

Burma (also known as Myanmar) is led by a military dictatorship under Senior General Than Shwe's control who ruthlessly suppress their population and all opposition and dissent through violence, fear, and imprisonment. Their human rights record is appalling and Human Rights organisations such as the Burma Campaign have been campaigning for years to remove all foreign companies from Burma, as it increases the GDP of the country, thus facilitating the continuation of the military junta.





THAT WE SHOULD PENALISE COMPANIES THAT PROP UP THE BURMESE REGIME BY DOING BUSINESS IN BURMA


By condoning companies to prop up the Burmese Regime we are CONDONING HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES.


The junta ruthlessly suppress all opposition and dissent through violence, fear and imprisionment - we must fight against this and take steps that impact upon the severing conditions that prolongue the rule of the junta. These include taking away their right to support themselves financially, which is why companies that give portions of their profits or hire Burmese workers must be stopped now.

Burma is a regime that kills monks who protest peacefully - an act that caused uproar even within neighbouring states who are not liberal democracies because Buddhist monks are generally revered and respected regionally.

According to the Burma Campaign: http://www.burmacampaign.org.uk/index.php/burma/news/Biggest-Burma-Dirty-List-Ever-Published-30-Companies-Exposed:

"More companies than ever are investing in Burma in the oil, gas and dams sectors. New targeted sanctions against the regime must now be implemented if the international community is serious about cutting the regime’s financial lifeline” said Johnny Chatterton, Campaigns Officer at the Burma Campaign UK. “To those that claim investment aids the people of Burma, the evidence shows the opposite is true. As investment has increased, the human rights situation has deteriorated.”

"The human rights situation in Burma has deteriorated in Burma in the past year as the number of political prisoners has doubled to 2,100 and the regime continues to conduct military offensives against ethnic minorities."

"The current sanctions program fails to stop companies that invest in Burma from using financial, insurance and legal services from inside the European Union. The Burma Campaign UK is calling for a rolling series of targeted sanctions, including banning all investment, sanctions on banking and financial transactions, and a ban of insurance companies providing cover for Burma. The current EU sanctions program is outlined in the Notes to Editors, below."

"Major companies named and shamed on the list include: Toyota, Qantas, TOTAL Oil, Orient Express, Kuoni, TUI, Schlumberger, BBC Worldwide, Lonely Planet Daewoo, China National Offshore Oil Corp, and Hutchison Whampoa, owner of 3 Mobile."

"In the past year many companies have pulled out of Burma including Cotton Traders, XL, Trailblazer Guides, Jet Gold Corp, CHC and Aquatic. Since the Dirty List was first published six years ago over 100 companies have withdrawn from Burma including PwC, Rolls Royce, DHL, Swiss Re and Willis."

"The Burmese regime spends half its budget on the military and just 1.4% of GDP on health and education, less than half that spent by the next poorest country in Asia. Burma is the only country in Asia whose defence budget is greater than that of health and education combined. As a consequence Burma has the 4th highest child mortality rate in the world." [End Quote from Burma Campaign]

Penalizing a company for doing business at a certain place is abusing human rights as well. In a world, where globalization is the buzz word, we cannot force a company to close its business on the ground of relative morality. We saw the US attacking and killing thousands of innocent Iraqis. But it wasn't considered as violence to the civilized world. If penalizing companies in Myanmar is the solution to the given problem, all Corporations based outside US should also be penalized for their business in US. And the US corporations should not be allowed to extend their business outside their territory as well.


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THAT WE SHOULD PENALISE COMPANIES THAT PROP UP THE BURMESE REGIME BY DOING BUSINESS IN BURMA


Foreign Companies that pull out of Burmese investments will be PENALISING INNOCENT BURMESE, not the Junta.


By taking away all foreign investment from Burma, a country already mired in poverty, this would plunge the country only deeper into poverty and cause many to die of hunger-related deaths. There is no evidence that Burma's junta impoverishing their population to an already low GDP per capita ($1,900 according to the CIA World Factbook) has had any impact on regime stability. Thus taking away investment would only punish the innocent people, many of whom would be further malnourished and desperate, while the food and resources the country have would remain in the hands of the military - the perpetrators of the innocent Burmese suffering. In other words, this policy would punish the already impoverished, while conditions of those who currently benefit from the regime would remain the same.




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1. By condoning companies to prop up the Burmese Regime we are CONDONING HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES.
# 1

The junta ruthlessly suppress all opposition and dissent through violence, fear and imprisionment - we must fight against this and take steps that impact upon the severing conditions that prolongue the rule of the junta. These include taking away their right to support themselves financially, which is why companies that give portions of their profits or hire Burmese workers must be stopped now.

Burma is a regime that kills monks who protest peacefully - an act that caused uproar even within neighbouring states who are not liberal democracies because Buddhist monks are generally revered and respected regionally.

According to the Burma Campaign: http://www.burmacampaign.org.uk/index.php/burma/news/Biggest-Burma-Dirty-List-Ever-Published-30-Companies-Exposed:

"More companies than ever are investing in Burma in the oil, gas and dams sectors. New targeted sanctions against the regime must now be implemented if the international community is serious about cutting the regime’s financial lifeline” said Johnny Chatterton, Campaigns Officer at the Burma Campaign UK. “To those that claim investment aids the people of Burma, the evidence shows the opposite is true. As investment has increased, the human rights situation has deteriorated.”

"The human rights situation in Burma has deteriorated in Burma in the past year as the number of political prisoners has doubled to 2,100 and the regime continues to conduct military offensives against ethnic minorities."

"The current sanctions program fails to stop companies that invest in Burma from using financial, insurance and legal services from inside the European Union. The Burma Campaign UK is calling for a rolling series of targeted sanctions, including banning all investment, sanctions on banking and financial transactions, and a ban of insurance companies providing cover for Burma. The current EU sanctions program is outlined in the Notes to Editors, below."

"Major companies named and shamed on the list include: Toyota, Qantas, TOTAL Oil, Orient Express, Kuoni, TUI, Schlumberger, BBC Worldwide, Lonely Planet Daewoo, China National Offshore Oil Corp, and Hutchison Whampoa, owner of 3 Mobile."

"In the past year many companies have pulled out of Burma including Cotton Traders, XL, Trailblazer Guides, Jet Gold Corp, CHC and Aquatic. Since the Dirty List was first published six years ago over 100 companies have withdrawn from Burma including PwC, Rolls Royce, DHL, Swiss Re and Willis."

"The Burmese regime spends half its budget on the military and just 1.4% of GDP on health and education, less than half that spent by the next poorest country in Asia. Burma is the only country in Asia whose defence budget is greater than that of health and education combined. As a consequence Burma has the 4th highest child mortality rate in the world." [End Quote from Burma Campaign]

admin

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12:06, 07 April 09

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Karma Score: 14


# 2

Penalizing a company for doing business at a certain place is abusing human rights as well. In a world, where globalization is the buzz word, we cannot force a company to close its business on the ground of relative morality. We saw the US attacking and killing thousands of innocent Iraqis. But it wasn't considered as violence to the civilized world. If penalizing companies in Myanmar is the solution to the given problem, all Corporations based outside US should also be penalized for their business in US. And the US corporations should not be allowed to extend their business outside their territory as well.

Ashiq

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13:02, 13 March 10

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Karma Score: 7



1. Foreign Companies that pull out of Burmese investments will be PENALISING INNOCENT BURMESE, not the Junta.
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By taking away all foreign investment from Burma, a country already mired in poverty, this would plunge the country only deeper into poverty and cause many to die of hunger-related deaths. There is no evidence that Burma's junta impoverishing their population to an already low GDP per capita ($1,900 according to the CIA World Factbook) has had any impact on regime stability. Thus taking away investment would only punish the innocent people, many of whom would be further malnourished and desperate, while the food and resources the country have would remain in the hands of the military - the perpetrators of the innocent Burmese suffering. In other words, this policy would punish the already impoverished, while conditions of those who currently benefit from the regime would remain the same.

admin

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12:15, 07 April 09

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Karma Score: 14



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