Modified:
24 Nov 2008
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Yes:

50%

No:

50%

Neutral:

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DEBATE: SHOULD THE 'MINI-BUDGET' HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT?

In the last hour Alistair Darling has unveiled his highly anticipated pre-budget report. Has he miscalculated the measures needed to get the economy back on track?





SHOULD THE 'MINI-BUDGET' HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT?


Income tax not VAT should have been cut.


Liberal Democrat Treasury spokesman Vince Cable who was once labelled a doom-monger for predicting the credit crunch has suggested that a cut in income tax not a reduction in VAT is what is needed to stimulate the economy.



SHOULD THE 'MINI-BUDGET' HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT?


Employers' NI for small businesses should have been reduced


This way jobs would be safer, people would have more secure incomes, and would therefore be more willing to spend. Perhaps employers would even take on more staff.Small businesses need our support at times like this. Instead employees NI has risen, doing exactly the opposite.

NI contributins are needed to help the government fund public services and prevent it from having to borrow even more money, getting greater into national debt.


What do you think?  Vote on this point below.
Absolutely Yes
Strongly Yes
Mostly Yes
Partially Yes
Neutral
Partially No
Mostly No
Strongly No
Absolutely No

SHOULD THE 'MINI-BUDGET' HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT?


The separate VAT on essentials should have been cut


We pay reduced VAT on electricity and gas and the reduced rate is not affected by the cut. These utilities are necessities, especially in winter. Cuts should be placed on these to alleviate suffering not on luxury goods that we are not buying anyway.



SHOULD THE 'MINI-BUDGET' HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT?


We should have backed out of hosting the olympics


We can no longer afford to host such an expensive event with the current state of our economy. It is time to be selfish and spend the money on helping our own citizens not hosting other countries' athletes and world press.

The Olympics will cost money but it is an investment in the nation's infrastructure - transport and leisure facilities accross the country will be improved - which will be a legacy we can all reap benefits from.


What do you think?  Vote on this point below.
Absolutely Yes
Strongly Yes
Mostly Yes
Partially Yes
Neutral
Partially No
Mostly No
Strongly No
Absolutely No

SHOULD THE 'MINI-BUDGET' HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT?


Help for housing market


The housing market needs a hand and the last stamp duty change had little effect. If we could reduce stamp duty further or even abolish it completely especially for first time buyers, at least for a short to medium term period, we might be able to kick start the market. Alternatively stamp duty could be levvied on sellers but not buyers. That way the government does not lose out on the revenue but the buyer has an easier time.

Some sort of tax free saving scheme, similar to ISA's but aimed specifically at saving for property investment, could also have been a beneficial move according to the Association of Mortgage Intermediaries.



SHOULD THE 'MINI-BUDGET' HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT?


Cash return to all basic rate taxpayers


Jon Cruddas, Labour MP for Barking & Dagenham said before the PBR was announced ''Any stimulus must be clear-cut and dramatic. One such initiative would be a cash return to all taxpayers. I would send everyone who pays the basic tax rate - 27 million people - a £500 cheque. That would cost 0.9% of GDP, some £13.5bn. Gordon Brown should personally sign the cheque and have it sent to everyone within weeks.''



SHOULD THE 'MINI-BUDGET' HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT?


FTSE rise shows Alisdair got it right


The FTSE rise was probably more to do with the fact Citibank has secured support than any announcement to do with the British Economy...

The FTSE has risen nearly 10% today. The greatest one day rise in it's history. Most of this was in the hour that the PBR was being announced. Surely this is a global vote of confidence in the plans?


What do you think?  Vote on this point below.
Absolutely Yes
Strongly Yes
Mostly Yes
Partially Yes
Neutral
Partially No
Mostly No
Strongly No
Absolutely No

SHOULD THE 'MINI-BUDGET' HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT?


Strategies help the most at risk - pensioners and families


With inflation falling, pegging rises in the basic state pension to the highest inflation rate will make a real difference. This September, inflation was 5.2%, meaning that from April the state pension will go up by at least £4.54 for a single OAP and by £7.26 for couples.

Child benefit was already set to go up by at least 5% because it is index-linked to the unusually high September RPI figure, but parents can now look forward to an increase of more than £1 to £20 a week for the first child.




Vote on the overall debate: Should the 'mini-budget' have been different?

What do you think?  Vote on this debate below.
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Mostly Yes
Partially Yes
Neutral
Partially No
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Absolutely No
1. Income tax not VAT should have been cut.
# 1

Liberal Democrat Treasury spokesman Vince Cable who was once labelled a doom-monger for predicting the credit crunch has suggested that a cut in income tax not a reduction in VAT is what is needed to stimulate the economy.

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12:18, 24 November 08

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Karma Score: 14



2. Employers' NI for small businesses should have been reduced
# 1

This way jobs would be safer, people would have more secure incomes, and would therefore be more willing to spend. Perhaps employers would even take on more staff.Small businesses need our support at times like this. Instead employees NI has risen, doing exactly the opposite.

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13:25, 24 November 08

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Karma Score: 14


# 2

NI contributins are needed to help the government fund public services and prevent it from having to borrow even more money, getting greater into national debt.

admin

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13:25, 24 November 08

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Karma Score: 14



3. The separate VAT on essentials should have been cut
# 1

We pay reduced VAT on electricity and gas and the reduced rate is not affected by the cut. These utilities are necessities, especially in winter. Cuts should be placed on these to alleviate suffering not on luxury goods that we are not buying anyway.

admin

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13:32, 24 November 08

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Karma Score: 14



4. We should have backed out of hosting the olympics
# 1

We can no longer afford to host such an expensive event with the current state of our economy. It is time to be selfish and spend the money on helping our own citizens not hosting other countries' athletes and world press.

admin

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13:39, 24 November 08

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Karma Score: 14


# 2

The Olympics will cost money but it is an investment in the nation's infrastructure - transport and leisure facilities accross the country will be improved - which will be a legacy we can all reap benefits from.

admin

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13:39, 24 November 08

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Karma Score: 14



5. Help for housing market
# 1

The housing market needs a hand and the last stamp duty change had little effect. If we could reduce stamp duty further or even abolish it completely especially for first time buyers, at least for a short to medium term period, we might be able to kick start the market. Alternatively stamp duty could be levvied on sellers but not buyers. That way the government does not lose out on the revenue but the buyer has an easier time.

Some sort of tax free saving scheme, similar to ISA's but aimed specifically at saving for property investment, could also have been a beneficial move according to the Association of Mortgage Intermediaries.

admin

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05:14, 25 November 08

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Karma Score: 14



6. Cash return to all basic rate taxpayers
# 1

Jon Cruddas, Labour MP for Barking & Dagenham said before the PBR was announced ''Any stimulus must be clear-cut and dramatic. One such initiative would be a cash return to all taxpayers. I would send everyone who pays the basic tax rate - 27 million people - a £500 cheque. That would cost 0.9% of GDP, some £13.5bn. Gordon Brown should personally sign the cheque and have it sent to everyone within weeks.''

admin

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05:29, 25 November 08

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Karma Score: 14



1. FTSE rise shows Alisdair got it right
# 1

The FTSE has risen nearly 10% today. The greatest one day rise in it's history. Most of this was in the hour that the PBR was being announced. Surely this is a global vote of confidence in the plans?

admin

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12:32, 24 November 08

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Karma Score: 14


# 2

The FTSE rise was probably more to do with the fact Citibank has secured support than any announcement to do with the British Economy...

admin

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12:32, 24 November 08

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Karma Score: 14



2. Strategies help the most at risk - pensioners and families
# 1

With inflation falling, pegging rises in the basic state pension to the highest inflation rate will make a real difference. This September, inflation was 5.2%, meaning that from April the state pension will go up by at least £4.54 for a single OAP and by £7.26 for couples.

Child benefit was already set to go up by at least 5% because it is index-linked to the unusually high September RPI figure, but parents can now look forward to an increase of more than £1 to £20 a week for the first child.

admin

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13:04, 24 November 08

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Karma Score: 14



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