Modified:
14 Nov 2009
by Admin

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DEBATE: RAISING THE TOP RATE INCOME TAX TO 45% IS THE RIGHT MOVE

Alistair Darling has announced a new top rate of tax for the highest earners, with those on more than £150k to be charged at 45p in the £1. This is right and just, those earning that much should contribute a little more.





RAISING THE TOP RATE INCOME TAX TO 45% IS THE RIGHT MOVE


It is about time those earning the most contributed the most.


The tax system in Britain has often been criticised for its social discriminatory properties. The less well off always seem to be hit very hard by tax whereas the welathy find loopholes. Perhaps raising top band income tax will help reduce the social inequality that still exists in the country.

The very welathy will stil find loopholes. Those earning 150k will perhaps have the economic savvy (or the money to afford accountants who have) that they need to avoid much of the tax, whereas minumum wage earners perhaps cannot.


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RAISING THE TOP RATE INCOME TAX TO 45% IS THE RIGHT MOVE


Although it seems a lot there is no 'unearned income' surcharge


There is no extra tax on investments, and those above the 150k threshold are likely to have pretty hefty investments. The income tax is therefore not quite as much of a blow to these people as it could have been.

The investments of earners in this bracket are likely to have been in property. As the property market plummets so do the value of their investments so they are being affected.


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Absolutely No

RAISING THE TOP RATE INCOME TAX TO 45% IS THE RIGHT MOVE


So called 'Robin Hood economics' will help those that need it most


This tax rate is for those that earn the most. When combined with the announcement that the £120 increase in the personal income tax allowance is now permanent (and will be increased to £145 from next April) we will see real help for those earning least and struggling most.



RAISING THE TOP RATE INCOME TAX TO 45% IS THE RIGHT MOVE


The move will be greatly popular with Joe Bloggs


The general public blame the city fat cats for the current economic situation. It will please the public if they are seen to pay for the consequences through raised tax on their ill-gotten (or at least ill-advised) gains.



RAISING THE TOP RATE INCOME TAX TO 45% IS THE RIGHT MOVE


Bad idea politically - it gives the Tories more reason to criticise.


This argument rests on the assumption that the measure will fail. If this is what's needed to kickstart the economy then not only will the Tories not be able to criticise, they may be more hesitant to criticise similar policies in the future.

It appears that the Tories have actually emerged from their decade of irrelevance and stand to gain should this crisis be mishandled. Despite the lack of any real causal relationship, Tory leadership can always blame lackluster economic performance on the taxing of the UK's most productive citizens.


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Partially Yes
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Strongly No
Absolutely No

RAISING THE TOP RATE INCOME TAX TO 45% IS THE RIGHT MOVE


Increasing income taxes during a downturn is always a risky idea.


Almost everything there is irrelevant - raising income tax to 45% will Always increase the amount taken, you will not find that taxes are reaping less if the rates are higher. xD

Practically speaking, increasing income taxes during a downturn is always a risky idea. It assumes that this population wont waste resources on trying to avoid the higher rates (maxing out tax-sheltered accounts, loopholes, etc.), especially when they have taking a huge hit on securities losses. Further, the wealthy often have huge discretionary income accounts--they are the best target for spurring consumption; I highly doubt the rich will spend more if their income is taxed more (especially if the increase offsets the decrease in VAT).


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Absolutely No


Vote on the overall debate: Raising the top rate income tax to 45% is the right move

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1. It is about time those earning the most contributed the most.
# 1

The tax system in Britain has often been criticised for its social discriminatory properties. The less well off always seem to be hit very hard by tax whereas the welathy find loopholes. Perhaps raising top band income tax will help reduce the social inequality that still exists in the country.

admin

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06:03, 24 November 08

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Karma Score: 14


# 2

The very welathy will stil find loopholes. Those earning 150k will perhaps have the economic savvy (or the money to afford accountants who have) that they need to avoid much of the tax, whereas minumum wage earners perhaps cannot.

admin

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06:03, 24 November 08

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Karma Score: 14



2. Although it seems a lot there is no 'unearned income' surcharge
# 1

There is no extra tax on investments, and those above the 150k threshold are likely to have pretty hefty investments. The income tax is therefore not quite as much of a blow to these people as it could have been.

admin

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06:11, 24 November 08

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Karma Score: 14


# 2

The investments of earners in this bracket are likely to have been in property. As the property market plummets so do the value of their investments so they are being affected.

admin

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06:11, 24 November 08

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Karma Score: 14



3. So called 'Robin Hood economics' will help those that need it most
# 1

This tax rate is for those that earn the most. When combined with the announcement that the £120 increase in the personal income tax allowance is now permanent (and will be increased to £145 from next April) we will see real help for those earning least and struggling most.

admin

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11:38, 24 November 08

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Karma Score: 14



4. The move will be greatly popular with Joe Bloggs
# 1

The general public blame the city fat cats for the current economic situation. It will please the public if they are seen to pay for the consequences through raised tax on their ill-gotten (or at least ill-advised) gains.

admin

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11:41, 24 November 08

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Karma Score: 14



1. Bad idea politically - it gives the Tories more reason to criticise.
# 1

It appears that the Tories have actually emerged from their decade of irrelevance and stand to gain should this crisis be mishandled. Despite the lack of any real causal relationship, Tory leadership can always blame lackluster economic performance on the taxing of the UK's most productive citizens.

admin

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05:22, 24 November 08

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Karma Score: 14


# 2

This argument rests on the assumption that the measure will fail. If this is what's needed to kickstart the economy then not only will the Tories not be able to criticise, they may be more hesitant to criticise similar policies in the future.

admin

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05:22, 24 November 08

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Karma Score: 14



2. Increasing income taxes during a downturn is always a risky idea.
# 1

Practically speaking, increasing income taxes during a downturn is always a risky idea. It assumes that this population wont waste resources on trying to avoid the higher rates (maxing out tax-sheltered accounts, loopholes, etc.), especially when they have taking a huge hit on securities losses. Further, the wealthy often have huge discretionary income accounts--they are the best target for spurring consumption; I highly doubt the rich will spend more if their income is taxed more (especially if the increase offsets the decrease in VAT).

admin

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05:25, 24 November 08

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Karma Score: 14


# 2

Almost everything there is irrelevant - raising income tax to 45% will Always increase the amount taken, you will not find that taxes are reaping less if the rates are higher. xD

twinklepop

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14:27, 14 November 09

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Karma Score: 12



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