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DEBATE: TV LICENCE, FAIR OR UN-FAIR TAX?

The Tv licence is charged to every household in the Uk and monies used to fund the BBC, is this a fair method?





TV LICENCE, FAIR OR UN-FAIR TAX?


Un-Fair TAX


It is unfair to tax every household within the UK to fund an organisation such as the BBC, simply because in todays world of technology there are better ways. It is un-fair because... a) The people who dont wish to watch the BBc have to pay for it. b)if a person already subscibes to cable or satalite then they pay twice for the service. c) in many country's outside the UK they receive the or some of the services of the BBC freee of charge. d) No other service in the Uk is allowed to get away with blanket charges to every household whether or not consumers use their sevice!



TV LICENCE, FAIR OR UN-FAIR TAX?


It is un-fair because...


a) The people who dont wish to watch the BBc have to pay for it. b)if a person already subscibes to cable or satalite then they pay twice for the service. c) in many country's outside the UK they receive the or some of the services of the BBC freee of charge. d) No other service in the Uk is allowed to get away with blanket charges to every household whether or not consumers use their sevice!



TV LICENCE, FAIR OR UN-FAIR TAX?


everyone has a right to choice!


If you do all your shopping in ASDA, you are not made to pay TESCO £150 per year because they run a similar service!

Its true everyone does have a right to choose so if you don't like it don't have a tv! If you don't own tv and thefore do not have a license this would of course be unfair to those wh do as the bbc offer much more than eastenders. They offer educational opportunities to young talentin many different fields as well as funding many programs that you or yur children learnt from in schools. If these things were taken away people would get upset then too. Unfortunately we live in a world where nothing is free but no one wants to pay.

I am sorry to disagree with you but your argument misses one point: it is not a matter of choosing or not to have a TV, but choosing or not to watch a certain program! The fact that BBC runs educational programs cannot be an argument in a democratic world, that I have to pay a compulsory fee for their functioning.


What do you think?  Vote on this point below.
Absolutely Yes
Strongly Yes
Mostly Yes
Partially Yes
Neutral
Partially No
Mostly No
Strongly No
Absolutely No

TV LICENCE, FAIR OR UN-FAIR TAX?


outdated method


The TV licence is a TAX, it has no place in the 21st century, with modern methods of TV broadcasting, a jobs for the boys organisation which should be made to stand or fall on its own merrits!



TV LICENCE, FAIR OR UN-FAIR TAX?


tvlicence


hmmm and where would you expect the money to come from to fund all of the services we get from paying the licensing fee? Without a TV licence we'd have advertising on all BBC channels and radio stations which i for one would fucking detest. If you don't like paying the licence don't watch TV! Or just stream it off the internet, otherwise, shut up or expect to pay taxes elsewhere to fund the same thing! http://www.onebillionpageviews.org



TV LICENCE, FAIR OR UN-FAIR TAX?


They offer a service which everyone uses


Fair enough, but there should still be an opt-out for people who never watch tv at all.

Many people argue that it's unfair because it's compulsory to pay, but ask yourself how often you either watch a BBC programme, listen to a radio show funded by the BBC or take part in an event funded by the BBC. Whether people realise it or not, the BBC stretches our money far further than it would otherwise go.

You may say, "well the other channels offer the same sorts of services but don't charge anything". Well, this may be right on one level, but ask yourself whether you really want to spend a quarter of your time watching adverts. Also, do you really want to be watching programmes which are designed to make more money out of us, through competitions and phone-in services?

The BBC also offer unbiased news available through interactive services, online and through the news channel. The BBC makes up-to-date information available to all of us in one way or another, and their motives - because they have the money and therefore have no need to make any more out of us - lie purely in that they want to give us the best service available.

They also offer free events and festivals to allow the public to truely appreciate entertainment. Recent events include the Big Weekend and the various radio shows that audiences can go to for free.

They pay their employees fair wages out of the money they receive, as they believe everyone deserves to be paid fairly. They offer an incredibly large range of work experience places, making sure that as many people as possible can realise the enjoyment behind entertainment.

So ask yourself this; if the BBC didn't charge us for these services, would you really want another advertisement-filled, biased television station, radio channels, website and events you had to pay for?


What do you think?  Vote on this point below.
Absolutely Yes
Strongly Yes
Mostly Yes
Partially Yes
Neutral
Partially No
Mostly No
Strongly No
Absolutely No

TV LICENCE, FAIR OR UN-FAIR TAX?


It is not compulsory


Nobody is forced to buy a television. If people choose that that is what they want to do then they have to pay the taxes that come with it.



TV LICENCE, FAIR OR UN-FAIR TAX?


Fantastic value for money


The money that the BBC gets is used to fund top quality television. Although there are a few notable misses in everyone's personal tastes, programmes such as Doctor Who would not be able to be made. All the other big hits on British TV are all American imports. The USA can have big budget shows, because they can get big sponsors, something which Britain cannot achieve without funding such as the TV licence. I mean, 40p a day is not too much for 7 stations, plus radio broadcasts (which we get free anyway), and a brilliant internet service.



TV LICENCE, FAIR OR UN-FAIR TAX?


Without the licence fee the BBC would produce less educational material


If the BBC was forced to compete commercially the programmes which attract a smaller audience share would be cancelled. This sounds like good business sense, but from a public service sense would be a real loss.

The BBC has always had a commitment to producing high quality educational programming and programmes that cater to minorities, and it can only do so because it is not dependant on viewing figures. Though not as many people watch the OU programmes, for example, those that do can find them incredibly valuable.

There's a lot of entertainment on TV, which is a good thing, but we shouldn't turn away from programmes that help us learn. For those who can't afford university or don't know where to start when confronted by a million reference books, a half-hour guide to an otherwise inaccessible subject can be a great starting point.



TV LICENCE, FAIR OR UN-FAIR TAX?


The UK's TV Tax has no place in the Digital Age


Let's be clear.The TV licence fee is in essence a tax like any other and not simply a fee paid for a service. Like other taxes it is in effect compulsory. Unlike other more mainstream taxes it is increasingly difficult to justify.

It belongs in the 20th not the 21st century.

At the beginning of the Age of Broadcasting there was obvious merit in publicly funding a new mass media technology.This is what public funding is for : collective provision of a " public good" which would otherwise not be available to anyone or available only on the basis of individual ability to pay and therefore enjoyed by a minority only.Thus the BBC was originally conceived as a national broadcaster in an age where there was virtually no private sector competition. It was also importantly not only intended to be a "public service" but one that would provide inform and educate the British public with high quality output untainted by crass commercialism.

But where are we now ? What unique content does the BBC provide ? Indeed what is so special about the BBC in 2009 that merits its entitlement to a guaranteed income irrespective of who or how many consumes its "service". Whilst the Beeb remains a part of the public sector it is hardly "frontline" and not quite the same emptying the bins or public health provision.Yet many of the arguments deployed in "defence" of the genuinely frontline services are routinely deployed in justifying its existence. A cynic might see a touch of self interest in some of those arguments. In reality the BBC has been providing the same sort of programming that ITV and the other broadcast media.

Given that - all that is left is public sector inertia and vested interest.




Vote on the overall debate: Tv licence, fair or un-fair tax?

What do you think?  Vote on this debate below.
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Mostly Yes
Partially Yes
Neutral
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Absolutely No
1. Un-Fair TAX
# 1

It is unfair to tax every household within the UK to fund an organisation such as the BBC, simply because in todays world of technology there are better ways. It is un-fair because... a) The people who dont wish to watch the BBc have to pay for it. b)if a person already subscibes to cable or satalite then they pay twice for the service. c) in many country's outside the UK they receive the or some of the services of the BBC freee of charge. d) No other service in the Uk is allowed to get away with blanket charges to every household whether or not consumers use their sevice!

dhc

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19:09, 13 May 08

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Karma Score: 1367



2. It is un-fair because...
# 1

a) The people who dont wish to watch the BBc have to pay for it. b)if a person already subscibes to cable or satalite then they pay twice for the service. c) in many country's outside the UK they receive the or some of the services of the BBC freee of charge. d) No other service in the Uk is allowed to get away with blanket charges to every household whether or not consumers use their sevice!

dhc

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19:10, 13 May 08

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Karma Score: 1367



3. everyone has a right to choice!
# 1

If you do all your shopping in ASDA, you are not made to pay TESCO £150 per year because they run a similar service!

dhc

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19:12, 13 May 08

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Karma Score: 1367


# 2

Its true everyone does have a right to choose so if you don't like it don't have a tv! If you don't own tv and thefore do not have a license this would of course be unfair to those wh do as the bbc offer much more than eastenders. They offer educational opportunities to young talentin many different fields as well as funding many programs that you or yur children learnt from in schools. If these things were taken away people would get upset then too. Unfortunately we live in a world where nothing is free but no one wants to pay.

ngddrd

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15:43, 30 September 09

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Karma Score: 109



4. outdated method
# 1

The TV licence is a TAX, it has no place in the 21st century, with modern methods of TV broadcasting, a jobs for the boys organisation which should be made to stand or fall on its own merrits!

dhc

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19:14, 13 May 08

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Karma Score: 1367



5. tvlicence
# 1

hmmm and where would you expect the money to come from to fund all of the services we get from paying the licensing fee? Without a TV licence we'd have advertising on all BBC channels and radio stations which i for one would fucking detest. If you don't like paying the licence don't watch TV! Or just stream it off the internet, otherwise, shut up or expect to pay taxes elsewhere to fund the same thing! http://www.onebillionpageviews.org

admin

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11:12, 10 September 08

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Karma Score: 14


# 2

You have to pay the tax if you use the internet or a mobile phone as they both can access the BBC services. It's not just a case of not watching TV; You have to stop using any technology which connects to the internet.

sheep40932

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17:02, 15 October 09

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Karma Score: 1



1. They offer a service which everyone uses
# 1

Many people argue that it's unfair because it's compulsory to pay, but ask yourself how often you either watch a BBC programme, listen to a radio show funded by the BBC or take part in an event funded by the BBC. Whether people realise it or not, the BBC stretches our money far further than it would otherwise go.

You may say, "well the other channels offer the same sorts of services but don't charge anything". Well, this may be right on one level, but ask yourself whether you really want to spend a quarter of your time watching adverts. Also, do you really want to be watching programmes which are designed to make more money out of us, through competitions and phone-in services?

The BBC also offer unbiased news available through interactive services, online and through the news channel. The BBC makes up-to-date information available to all of us in one way or another, and their motives - because they have the money and therefore have no need to make any more out of us - lie purely in that they want to give us the best service available.

They also offer free events and festivals to allow the public to truely appreciate entertainment. Recent events include the Big Weekend and the various radio shows that audiences can go to for free.

They pay their employees fair wages out of the money they receive, as they believe everyone deserves to be paid fairly. They offer an incredibly large range of work experience places, making sure that as many people as possible can realise the enjoyment behind entertainment.

So ask yourself this; if the BBC didn't charge us for these services, would you really want another advertisement-filled, biased television station, radio channels, website and events you had to pay for?

dhc

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15:47, 14 May 08

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Karma Score: 1367


# 2

Fair enough, but there should still be an opt-out for people who never watch tv at all.

dhc

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15:47, 14 May 08

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Karma Score: 1367



2. It is not compulsory
# 1

Nobody is forced to buy a television. If people choose that that is what they want to do then they have to pay the taxes that come with it.

dhc

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07:51, 07 June 08

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Karma Score: 1367



3. Fantastic value for money
# 1

The money that the BBC gets is used to fund top quality television. Although there are a few notable misses in everyone's personal tastes, programmes such as Doctor Who would not be able to be made. All the other big hits on British TV are all American imports. The USA can have big budget shows, because they can get big sponsors, something which Britain cannot achieve without funding such as the TV licence. I mean, 40p a day is not too much for 7 stations, plus radio broadcasts (which we get free anyway), and a brilliant internet service.

admin

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12:49, 06 January 09

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Karma Score: 14



4. Without the licence fee the BBC would produce less educational material
# 1

If the BBC was forced to compete commercially the programmes which attract a smaller audience share would be cancelled. This sounds like good business sense, but from a public service sense would be a real loss.

The BBC has always had a commitment to producing high quality educational programming and programmes that cater to minorities, and it can only do so because it is not dependant on viewing figures. Though not as many people watch the OU programmes, for example, those that do can find them incredibly valuable.

There's a lot of entertainment on TV, which is a good thing, but we shouldn't turn away from programmes that help us learn. For those who can't afford university or don't know where to start when confronted by a million reference books, a half-hour guide to an otherwise inaccessible subject can be a great starting point.

admin

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20:47, 01 May 09

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Karma Score: 14



5. The UK's TV Tax has no place in the Digital Age
# 1

Let's be clear.The TV licence fee is in essence a tax like any other and not simply a fee paid for a service. Like other taxes it is in effect compulsory. Unlike other more mainstream taxes it is increasingly difficult to justify.

It belongs in the 20th not the 21st century.

At the beginning of the Age of Broadcasting there was obvious merit in publicly funding a new mass media technology.This is what public funding is for : collective provision of a " public good" which would otherwise not be available to anyone or available only on the basis of individual ability to pay and therefore enjoyed by a minority only.Thus the BBC was originally conceived as a national broadcaster in an age where there was virtually no private sector competition. It was also importantly not only intended to be a "public service" but one that would provide inform and educate the British public with high quality output untainted by crass commercialism.

But where are we now ? What unique content does the BBC provide ? Indeed what is so special about the BBC in 2009 that merits its entitlement to a guaranteed income irrespective of who or how many consumes its "service". Whilst the Beeb remains a part of the public sector it is hardly "frontline" and not quite the same emptying the bins or public health provision.Yet many of the arguments deployed in "defence" of the genuinely frontline services are routinely deployed in justifying its existence. A cynic might see a touch of self interest in some of those arguments. In reality the BBC has been providing the same sort of programming that ITV and the other broadcast media.

Given that - all that is left is public sector inertia and vested interest.

vanman

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05:52, 07 October 09

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Karma Score: 3



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