Women still suffer from discrimination in the UK

More progress has been made on equality between men and women in the UK over the past 100 years than any other point in history. Women have been given the right to vote, protection in courts, the Equal Pay Act has been passed in the House of Commons and women's rights have been enhanced. But do women still suffer from discrimination, or more discrimination than other groups in society do?

Women still suffer from discrimination in the UK

Yes because... No because...

Rape, Wife battery, the statistics say it all. As long as there are significantly more female victims the disparity exists

[[http://www.rapecrisis.org.uk/]]
[[http://www.womensaid.org.uk/]]

This is not just a calling for an end to the violence but merely striking a gender balance to it. Why must women suffer at all? is a question we leave for the long term but for now it is : Why must women suffer more?

[[http://www.oneinfourusa.org/statistics.php]]
"Are Men Raped?
3% of college men report surviving rape or attempted rape as a child or adult. (3) In a study by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control of 5,000 college students at over 100 colleges, 4% of men answered "yes" to the question "In your lifetime have you been forced to submit to sexual intercourse against your will?" (2) Who are the Perpatrators?

99% of people who rape are men, 60% are Caucasian. "

Add to that the fact that men/boys are more embarrassed about sexual assault being portrayed by the media, society et al as the perpetrators of sexual acts. It is not the revelation of forced sex that hurts as much (as is the case with women) but that of being made to do it, not enjoying it, being a hurt little sissy about it and so on. Adding that fact means that 'raped' men are naturally heavily underrepresented as they are less likely to report these crimes and that might mean that there is a balance and no discrimination against women.

The stats mentioned above are only from a portion of the stats accumulated.
Men have suffered very very badly over the centuries.
Women have generally been the protected one's.
It has been men that had to sit up with the financial worries.
It has been men that would have the adrenal glands pumping more.
It has been expected of men to be harder and consequently have to take physical-health related knocks for that.

and the debate only begins here ....

Women still suffer from discrimination in the UK

Yes because... No because...

Rape stats at random

"Are Men Raped?

3% of college men report surviving rape or attempted rape as a child or adult. (3)
In a study by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control of 5,000 college students at over 100 colleges, 4% of men answered "yes" to the question "In your lifetime have you been forced to submit to sexual intercourse against your will?" (2)
Who are the Perpatrators?

99% of people who rape are men, 60% are Caucasian. (7)
Between 62% (4) and 84% (1) of survivors knew their attacker.
8% of men admit committing acts that meet the legal definition of rape or attempted rape. Of these men who committed rape, 84% said that what they did was definitely not rape. (1)
More than one in five men report "becoming so sexually aroused that they could not stop themselves from having sex, even though the woman did not consent." (8)
35% of men report at least some degree of likelihood of raping if they could be assured they wouldn't be caught or punished. (9)
One out of every 500 college students is infected with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. (10)
First-year students in college tend to believe more rape myths than seniors. (11)
Sexual assault offenders were substantially more likely than any other category of violent criminal to report experiencing physical or sexual abuse as children. (7)
In one study, 98% of men who raped boys reported that they were heterosexual. (12)" - [[http://www.oneinfourusa.org/statistics.php]]

As in the point above, rape statistics for men are even more underplayed than those for women.

Women still suffer from discrimination in the UK

Yes because... No because...

Equal pay act ,implementation?

[[http://goo.gl/L6YRQ]]
"Equal Pay
The Equal Pay Act 1970 gives you the right to be treated equally in terms of pay in comparison to a member of the opposite sex.
If you believe you are not being treated equally, you may be able to make a complaint, or bring a claim to an employment tribunal.
If you wanted to do this, you would need to compare yourself to someone of the opposite sex who works for the same employer as you. You would need to be able to show that you:
are doing like work. This means work which is the same or broadly similar to that of the other person, or
are doing work which has been rated as equivalent to the other person's under a job evaluation study
are doing work which is of equal value to that of the other person. For example, you need to use a similar amount of effort, skill and decision-making abilities."
"The data shows that the median annual salary for all full-time employees in 2010 was £25,900, which is up 0.3% on the year before. But men earn vastly more than women: £28,091, compared to £22,490 - a difference of 19.9%.
Even overtime has an effect - 24.1% of men working full-time take home overtime pay, compared to only 12% of women in the same position." [[http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/mar/08/international-womens-day-pay-gap]]
"Despite four decades of equal pay legislation, Britain has one of the worst gender gaps in Europe. Women in the UK are paid 79% of male rates, while across the 27 countries of the European Union the figure is 82%, according to a report earlier this year from Eurobarometer."[[http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/aug/19/equal-pay-women-2057]]

The pay gap exists primarily because women are willing to settle for less. Women do not often, bargain for a better salary as men do. Women are more willing to settle, women are also less likely to be running/flying around for better jobs. It is not society discriminates against women but that women discriminate against ourselves. We lack the ambition, drive and impetus to demand to be taken for what we are worth, what we are entitled to and so on.

There is also the matter of never telling people how much you're getting paid. This way a woman can settle for 30,000 pounds/annum for a job that normally pays 80,000 pounds per annum for example. Job sites such as indeed, payscale and glassdoor may prove helpful in this regard but in the end it is upto the individual to put a pricetag on him/herself. Men tend to be more confident, pushy and ambitious in this regard. [[http://www.cbsalary.com/salary-calculator/chart/Marketing+Associate?usd=1&uas=&kw=Marketing&ujt=&jn=&tid=3322&ns=1]] [[http://goo.gl/WVCbE]] Point is, up 20-30% whatever amount is offered to you, under all circumstances. Companies will always try and hire you at a lower salary estimate than they are willing to pay.
"Gender equality groups such as the Fawcett Society blame the UK's poor record on a culture of secrecy around pay. They point to examples such as Sweden, where more transparency has resulted in falling pay gaps. They want the coalition government to set a deadline for closing the gap, make laws more transparent, and force companies to audit their workforces for unfair gaps more regularly."
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Women still suffer from discrimination in the UK

Yes because... No because...

Mothers or even women of 'child-bearing age' face job discrimination

"It cites a survey of 122 recruitment agencies that revealed more than 70% of them had been asked by clients to avoid hiring pregnant women or those of childbearing age.
The report found disabled people were 29% less likely to be in employment than non-disabled people.
It also says other disadvantaged groups are Pakistani and Bangladeshi women who are 30% less likely to be in work than white women of similar ages and qualifications." - [[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6402933.stm]]

"Most of us will be older, many of us will become disabled and even if we are not of one race or another we may have a mixed race child. So these things concern us.
"The unemployment of women costs us about £28bn a year, the under-employment of disabled people about £9bn."
Mr Phillips believes inequality leads to lost tax revenue and increased benefit costs." [[http://goo.gl/yNQ74]]

"Mrs Warsi has built up a food manufacturer supplying ready-made meals to UK supermarkets and pubs, as well as exporting to Europe.
The company - named S&A Foods after her two sons Sadiq and Abid - turns over about £100m a year and employs 1,400 people in four factories in the north of England.
"As a young woman, I always had aspirations and a desire to achieve something on my own," she recalls." -[[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2221003.stm]]

"Companies like S&A are vulnerable because they do not have brand awareness among consumers.

Someone buying chicken fajitas from Sainsbury's, for example, would never know from the packaging that the food was made by S&A.

For her part, Mrs Warsi says she still believes in the "tremendous" potential of ready-made meals, but is weighing up other opportunities in the food market."
[[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/8218946/Curry-queen-Shanta-Gaury-Pathak-dies.html]]

Women still suffer from discrimination in the UK

Yes because... No because...

discrimination exist, but not necessarely against women.

as stated but the user above, Women do not often, bargain for a better salary as men do. Also, sometimes they work for fun. its their partners that have to provide for them. this less in western society but it is certainly the case in 3rd word where a woman's salary is just a bonus to the family revenu.

it s mentioned about £30 and £80k per year. i think it is a monority of the population (less than 20%) who earn that kind of money. they do not represent us.

<...They want the coalition government to set a deadline for closing the gap, make laws more transparent, and force companies to audit their workforces for unfair gaps more regularly..... >
i think this should apply to any gap that exist between worker not only men and woman. I have seen cases where to MEN doing exactly the same job, same qualification one get pay more than double the salary of his colleague simply because he knew who to negociate his salary. i believe this is unfair and should be tolerated

Women still suffer from discrimination in the UK

Yes because... No because...

No it works both ways.

As I was being physically and mentally abused by a girlfriend the abuse centre did not want to know because I was male. I ended up in hospital. (2) As a factory worker on piece work my female co workers were 40% slower,therefore earning themselves less and holding up production due to their need to natter.(3) They took far more time off from work due to numerous female reasons and having babies. Why should the employer pay for this ?.(4) Later as an employer with the knowledge gained I looked more to employing males,unless of course she was more experienced and mature.(5) As my buisness was on 3 floors it would be far too expensive to adapt the building to employ some disabled persons.It is not discrimination,it is buisness.(6)Back to my first statement,abuse centres bend over backwards for abused women. Men they do not want to know,and more and more women are beating up their men folk because they can,and it is not self defence in most cases,its because a man will not and cannot hit a woman. But I still love them.

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