Modified:
13 Nov 2009
by Admin

Vote totals:

Yes:

67%

No:

33%

Neutral:

0%

 
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DEBATE: SHOULD WE BE FREE TO EXPRESS OUR RELIGION AS WE WISH?

Many countries in the present day are considered as democracies or are fighting for democracy, thus do you not believe that being able to wear something so simple as a religious symbol or to speak freely about something you truly believe in (sort of what were doing now) is what could be deemed as a natural right and should be available to all?





SHOULD WE BE FREE TO EXPRESS OUR RELIGION AS WE WISH?


It is a fundamental part of OUR Human Rights


Article 10 of the ECHR (European Convention of Human Rights) and the Human Rights Act in the UK states that 'Everyone has the right to freedom of expression' and Article 9 states that 'Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion'

The fact that it is written in a UN pamphlet does not mean that it is a desirable practical implementation at state level.


What do you think?  Vote on this point below.
Absolutely Yes
Strongly Yes
Mostly Yes
Partially Yes
Neutral
Partially No
Mostly No
Strongly No
Absolutely No

SHOULD WE BE FREE TO EXPRESS OUR RELIGION AS WE WISH?


Religious symbols harm no one


By wearing a religious symbol to express your identity you are not physically harming anyone, you are merely wearing something that symbolises a part of you and what you believe; deny this and you deny a person's belief, you alter a person's identity.

Physically, no, religious symbols cannot harm anyone. But consider the massive impact that certain symbols have had on sets of people over the years. Many of the most violent and destructive movements of history marched under supposed religious banners, and a lot of psychological harm can be done by reminding people of hardship they have suffered by these people. The schwastika (Gershwin's Law!), for example, is a symbol taken from Hinduism, I doubt any Hindus would march around wearing one on their sleeve.


What do you think?  Vote on this point below.
Absolutely Yes
Strongly Yes
Mostly Yes
Partially Yes
Neutral
Partially No
Mostly No
Strongly No
Absolutely No

SHOULD WE BE FREE TO EXPRESS OUR RELIGION AS WE WISH?


It is politically incorrect


Society has advanced so much that it can now be seen to be politically incorrect if one is restricted from practicing, performing, speaking or expressing their religion in a way in which they feel comfortable, What right does another human being have in telling you how to live your life, dictating what you can and cannot believe in? No one.

The individual, particularly the religious individual, does not exist in isolation in modern society.

The problem with a society that allows religious expression is based in the nature of religion itself. Unlike political opinions and political freedoms, religious ideals deal in the realm of "absolute truths", whereby a mentality of absolute right and absolute wrong are created. Because religion is inherently a social belief, religious groups tend to exist and view themselves as separate entities to others, creating power blocs which transmit into political structures. In combining this belief in an "absolute truth" with political power, distinctions between religious and ethnic groups are heightened, dividing society and leading to conflict and resentment. A world without public religion would encourage association without prejudices and lead to greater social cohesion.

Because the state has to take into consideration the collective good as well as individual good, it can justify action against individual beliefs in order to promote the wellbeing of a whole society.


What do you think?  Vote on this point below.
Absolutely Yes
Strongly Yes
Mostly Yes
Partially Yes
Neutral
Partially No
Mostly No
Strongly No
Absolutely No

SHOULD WE BE FREE TO EXPRESS OUR RELIGION AS WE WISH?


Infringing the rights of others


How do you define 'conflict with others'?. I do not believe in any God, which comes into conflict with other ideas but am allowed to express this view. And surely not allowing someone to express their views is derogatory to them. Not allowing a belief says that that belief is not valid. This must be an infringment of the rights of any who wishes to express a view that differs from anyone elses.

If by expressing who you are comes into conflict with others or if something derogatory has been said about someone because of their religion then this is wrong and thus they should not be allowed to exercise this right.


What do you think?  Vote on this point below.
Absolutely Yes
Strongly Yes
Mostly Yes
Partially Yes
Neutral
Partially No
Mostly No
Strongly No
Absolutely No

SHOULD WE BE FREE TO EXPRESS OUR RELIGION AS WE WISH?


Laws of a country


So a law is to be obeyed, no matter how unjust it is? If a country was to forbid any Religion from publicly worshipping, should it be followed to the letter or should a stand be taken for allowing freedom of Religion? Remember that the USA felt it necessary for white people to get their own services seperate from black people. Did that make it right? Should have Marther Luther King jr. and all the others involved in the Civil Rights movement accepted such a fact rather than fighting against it? Just because something is a law does not make it just.

If the country you are currently residing in feels that they have enforced laws for the safety of the entire country that may come into conflict with the laws or practice of a religion then it should be considered as to why the country has felt these laws are necessary and so people shouldn't be allowed to express it ANY way.


What do you think?  Vote on this point below.
Absolutely Yes
Strongly Yes
Mostly Yes
Partially Yes
Neutral
Partially No
Mostly No
Strongly No
Absolutely No

SHOULD WE BE FREE TO EXPRESS OUR RELIGION AS WE WISH?


Extremist measures is crossing the line


If by expressing, people perceive it to be to the degree that they resort to extremist measures and harmful protests that could cause long-term effects such as the IRA then this is not acceptable and thus people should not be free to express their religion as openly and as freely as they wish.




Vote on the overall debate: should we be free to express our religion as we wish?

What do you think?  Vote on this debate below.
Absolutely Yes
Strongly Yes
Mostly Yes
Partially Yes
Neutral
Partially No
Mostly No
Strongly No
Absolutely No
1. It is a fundamental part of OUR Human Rights
# 1

Article 10 of the ECHR (European Convention of Human Rights) and the Human Rights Act in the UK states that 'Everyone has the right to freedom of expression' and Article 9 states that 'Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion'

dhc

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13:45, 09 May 08

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Karma Score: 1367


# 2

The fact that it is written in a UN pamphlet does not mean that it is a desirable practical implementation at state level.

dhc

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13:45, 09 May 08

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Karma Score: 1367



2. Religious symbols harm no one
# 1

By wearing a religious symbol to express your identity you are not physically harming anyone, you are merely wearing something that symbolises a part of you and what you believe; deny this and you deny a person's belief, you alter a person's identity.

dhc

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13:53, 09 May 08

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Karma Score: 1367


# 2

Physically, no, religious symbols cannot harm anyone. But consider the massive impact that certain symbols have had on sets of people over the years. Many of the most violent and destructive movements of history marched under supposed religious banners, and a lot of psychological harm can be done by reminding people of hardship they have suffered by these people. The schwastika (Gershwin's Law!), for example, is a symbol taken from Hinduism, I doubt any Hindus would march around wearing one on their sleeve.

dhc

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13:53, 09 May 08

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Karma Score: 1367



3. It is politically incorrect
# 1

Society has advanced so much that it can now be seen to be politically incorrect if one is restricted from practicing, performing, speaking or expressing their religion in a way in which they feel comfortable, What right does another human being have in telling you how to live your life, dictating what you can and cannot believe in? No one.

dhc

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13:57, 09 May 08

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Karma Score: 1367


# 2

The individual, particularly the religious individual, does not exist in isolation in modern society.

The problem with a society that allows religious expression is based in the nature of religion itself. Unlike political opinions and political freedoms, religious ideals deal in the realm of "absolute truths", whereby a mentality of absolute right and absolute wrong are created. Because religion is inherently a social belief, religious groups tend to exist and view themselves as separate entities to others, creating power blocs which transmit into political structures. In combining this belief in an "absolute truth" with political power, distinctions between religious and ethnic groups are heightened, dividing society and leading to conflict and resentment. A world without public religion would encourage association without prejudices and lead to greater social cohesion.

Because the state has to take into consideration the collective good as well as individual good, it can justify action against individual beliefs in order to promote the wellbeing of a whole society.

dhc

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13:57, 09 May 08

|

Karma Score: 1367



1. Infringing the rights of others
# 1

If by expressing who you are comes into conflict with others or if something derogatory has been said about someone because of their religion then this is wrong and thus they should not be allowed to exercise this right.

dhc

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13:58, 09 May 08

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Karma Score: 1367


# 2

How do you define 'conflict with others'?. I do not believe in any God, which comes into conflict with other ideas but am allowed to express this view. And surely not allowing someone to express their views is derogatory to them. Not allowing a belief says that that belief is not valid. This must be an infringment of the rights of any who wishes to express a view that differs from anyone elses.

ngddrd

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14:07, 02 October 09

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Karma Score: 109



2. Laws of a country
# 1

If the country you are currently residing in feels that they have enforced laws for the safety of the entire country that may come into conflict with the laws or practice of a religion then it should be considered as to why the country has felt these laws are necessary and so people shouldn't be allowed to express it ANY way.

dhc

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14:01, 09 May 08

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Karma Score: 1367


# 2

So a law is to be obeyed, no matter how unjust it is? If a country was to forbid any Religion from publicly worshipping, should it be followed to the letter or should a stand be taken for allowing freedom of Religion? Remember that the USA felt it necessary for white people to get their own services seperate from black people. Did that make it right? Should have Marther Luther King jr. and all the others involved in the Civil Rights movement accepted such a fact rather than fighting against it? Just because something is a law does not make it just.

dhc

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14:01, 09 May 08

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Karma Score: 1367



3. Extremist measures is crossing the line
# 1

If by expressing, people perceive it to be to the degree that they resort to extremist measures and harmful protests that could cause long-term effects such as the IRA then this is not acceptable and thus people should not be free to express their religion as openly and as freely as they wish.

dhc

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14:04, 09 May 08

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Karma Score: 1367



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