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DEBATE: GOOGLE SHOULD LEAVE CHINA
Posted by: booji
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Google has threatened to pull out of china. Google in China is censored and google was widely considered to have 'sold out' to china when it decided to accept such censorship. Many in google felt uneasy about it, but they believed that new technologies would lead to a gradual opening up in china. Instead the opposite has happened and china's internet has been progressively clamped down upon. So google has taken a moral stance and said enough is enough. But many believe that the decision is commerical, google was losing out to local chinese competitors so simply wants a fig leaf for defeat.
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GOOGLE SHOULD LEAVE CHINA
They cannot achieve their objectives
When Google first moved over to China in January 2006, their aim was to open access to information for the Chinese population. They had hoped that once they had initiated Google, the internet in China would be revolutionised and the censorship would become less and less dominating. However, this has not occurred. New laws have been brought in which undermine Google’s objective and any future hope of this objective being achieved. When they first moved to China , they said that they would monitor conditions and if they did not improve they would leave. Now the time has come, and Google should leave China to deal with its own censorship issues.
When Google moved to China it did so for commercial reasons. Google is not a charity dedicated to human rights, but a company dedicated to profit. Moving into China gave them the opportunity to tap into a growing market, but they struggled to make enough headway against the market leader in China called Baidu. The fact is that China does not need Google. Google is just a search engine whereas China is a potential market of 200 million people with disposable incomes which is growing every day. Google should stay in China to develop its market share and keep trying to influence Chinese policy if that is important to it. By leaving China Google is not helping reduce censorship in China. It may be helping its public image in the West, but it is accomplishing nothing in China.
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GOOGLE SHOULD LEAVE CHINA
Their Chinese database is causing harm
Google China was hacked into by a sophisticated system. Google subsequently discovered that the aim of the breach in security was to gain access to the Gmail accounts of human rights activists in China. If this information was in the hand of the Chinese Government or other fundamentalist organisations, then great damage could be done; not only to the activists themselves, but the future of their project; to get people’s fundamental human rights protected in China.
Google China should improve its system and human rights activists should maybe not use Gmail for sending sensitive material. The allegation that Google left China to save human rights activists is a little absurd. One of the key reasons why Google left China is that a lot of its intellectual property was being stolen there, and the longer it stayed, the greater the risk that its valuable IP would be taken. Google should stay in China if it cares about human rights activists as without Gmail it may be hard for these activists to communicate if other email systems do not prioritise their privacy.
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GOOGLE SHOULD LEAVE CHINA
Staff in china deserve more
google's failure in china is a collective failure. the chinese staff are educated people and obviously knew the whole thing would be a risk for them. it's not as if they were brainwashed into working for google. since their collective efforts have failed they will have to reap the consequences collectively. not that i have no sympathy for them but the same goes for anyone, anywhere, who decides to work for somebody else's business.if the directors of google had deemed the hurdles to be just "a few," as you state, they would likely be staying. the fact that they are leaving strongly suggests that they have assessed the hurdles to be more than "a few," and not likely to be overcome. as for the chinese staff's future prospects, well considering they have the skills to work for somebody like google and in china's ever-expanding economy it should not be impossible to find a decent job, even with all the stigma they may receive. they'll probably fare better than most of the people in this little dying city in the states in which I live where unemployment is 15%.
The staff working in the Chinese offices of Google have put in a vast amount of work to the project at their own risk. They are in danger of so many reprisals due to their association with Google and their objective of opening up information and allowing free speech. Their hard work, determination and bravery deserves more than the American director of Google to turn around and give up just because there are a few more hurdles in the way of Google’s objective. The Chinese employees have faced many more hurdles than Google as a company, and now the company should show them the same level of bravery and determination by staying in China to complete their objectives.
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GOOGLE SHOULD LEAVE CHINA
No change will be made without Google’s help
Google is a search engine. It is not NATO. It is not Amnesty International. I think the opposing argument for this point contains the cultural arrogance that permeates the discussion of Google and China. How would you react if a Chinese search engine was campaigning in America to stop the abuses to civilians in Iraq for example? The 'fight for freedom of speech' is not a black and white picture. It is coloured by politics. With this in mind, Google should leave China to protect its intellectual property. Google is not a political entity and should not be misconstrued as one.
If Google, a massive internet success, both commercially and ethically, cannot stay and fight for freedom of speech in China then who can? Human Rights activists in China can only do so much on their own, at great risk to themselves. What is needed is a huge organisation, who can grab headlines, who can plough money into security and protection, and whose business model fundamentally represents freedom of speech. This is Google. If they quit the project now, the last four years would have been a waste. Google should have the courage to continue as if they do not, there is virtually no entity that could achieve the same objective
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GOOGLE SHOULD LEAVE CHINA
Human rights is not the real reason Google would be quitting
The Chief executive of Chinese search engine Baidu stated that the reasons for Google’s impending departure from China would not be because of the human rights issue, but for financial reasons. After a four year presence of Google in China, they have failed to dominate the market like they have done elsewhere in the world. Baidu have a 60% share in the market with Google only occupying 31% of the market[1]. The threat of moving out of China is not for the human rights issue that they are covering up with, but because they are feeling embarrassed about not being able to emulate the success they have had in the UK and the US in China. This is nothing but the reaction of a spoilt child.
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