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RUSSIA’S STRONG ARM TACTICS HAVE FAILED TO QUELL MILITANTS
Russia’s tactics in its separatist regions are very brutal, its opponents are in turn brutal themselves. The Russians long ago declared that the war in Chechnya was over yet the separatists have still been involved in bombings since. On 28th October an express train between Moscow and St. Petersburg was derailed, investigators have blamed a bomb. Although no one has claimed responsibility the authorities are blaming Chechen and Ingushetian terrorists for the bombing. This shows that the Russian tactics may prevent open resistance but is breeding resentment that surfaces in continuing terrorist attacks.
Russia’s strong arm tactics have failed to quell militants
Yes, because... Previous attacks
This 'terrorist' attack is not the first. There was a similar attack in 2007 on the same train line claimed by chechen rebels, Dubrovka theater was seized October 2002 and the taking of more than 1,000 hostages in Beslan's School Number One in September 2004.
That there are attacks does not necessarily mean that the Russian government has failed to quell the militants. We have no idea what the situation would look like if Russia had not acted as it did, things could be much worse in Russia now. If this would be the case then Russia's tactics would be succeeding. Equally the reverse could be true.
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Russia’s strong arm tactics have failed to quell militants
Yes, because... Shrinking ethnic Russian population in Chechnya
Although at a lower rate than in 1989, ethnic Russians still leave North Caucasus, which was ethnically diverse just 50 years ago. The decrease in ethnic Russians is politically inflammatory for both Russia and North Caucasus; for Russia and Russians it equates to losing control over the area, and in North Caucasus it means that some parts of their society are being sidelined, so the government are forced to implement special programmes to support the Russian language.
Russia’s strong arm tactics have failed to quell militants
Yes, because... Economic problems.
The level of education in North Caucasus is now equal to those in the rest of Russia and the indigenous peoples self-consciousness has risen which both takes away any advantage ethnic Russian have in an economically deprived area and reveals the economic and security situation to them. It is investment from Moscow that is needed, rather than a security measure, that is needed to help quell the violence, and the lack of it only serves to worsen resentment.
Russia’s strong arm tactics have failed to quell militants
No, because... Attacks rare
Although there are serious attacks, they are rare and the previous serious attack outside the Causacus was in 2005.
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Russia’s strong arm tactics have failed to quell militants
No, because... Rebuilding work in Chechnya
Russia has managed to pacify Chechnya to the point that the rebuilding of Grozny, all but destroyed during the war, has begun. this can be demonstrated by the opening of one of the biggest mosques in Europe in Grozny.[1] If militants were still in control or if there was still serious fighting then this would not be possible. This shows that there is life and culture returning to the city not just people and the physical rebuilding of bricks and mortar but a spiritual rebuilding too.
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02 Jun 2010
Point 1. Previous attacks
This 'terrorist' attack is not the first. There was a similar attack in 2007 on the same train line claimed by chechen rebels, Dubrovka theater was seized October 2002 and the taking of more than 1,000 hostages in Beslan's School Number One in September 2004.
That there are attacks does not necessarily mean that the Russian government has failed to quell the militants. We have no idea what the situation would look like if Russia had not acted as it did, things could be much worse in Russia now. If this would be the case then Russia's tactics would be succeeding. Equally the reverse could be true.
Point 2. Shrinking ethnic Russian population in Chechnya
Although at a lower rate than in 1989, ethnic Russians still leave North Caucasus, which was ethnically diverse just 50 years ago. The decrease in ethnic Russians is politically inflammatory for both Russia and North Caucasus; for Russia and Russians it equates to losing control over the area, and in North Caucasus it means that some parts of their society are being sidelined, so the government are forced to implement special programmes to support the Russian language.
Point 3. Economic problems.
The level of education in North Caucasus is now equal to those in the rest of Russia and the indigenous peoples self-consciousness has risen which both takes away any advantage ethnic Russian have in an economically deprived area and reveals the economic and security situation to them. It is investment from Moscow that is needed, rather than a security measure, that is needed to help quell the violence, and the lack of it only serves to worsen resentment.
Point 1. Attacks rare
The level of education in North Caucasus is now equal to those in the rest of Russia and the indigenous peoples self-consciousness has risen which both takes away any advantage ethnic Russian have in an economically deprived area and reveals the economic and security situation to them. It is investment from Moscow that is needed, rather than a security measure, that is needed to help quell the violence, and the lack of it only serves to worsen resentment.
Point 2. Rebuilding work in Chechnya
Russia has managed to pacify Chechnya to the point that the rebuilding of Grozny, all but destroyed during the war, has begun. this can be demonstrated by the opening of one of the biggest mosques in Europe in Grozny.[1] If militants were still in control or if there was still serious fighting then this would not be possible. This shows that there is life and culture returning to the city not just people and the physical rebuilding of bricks and mortar but a spiritual rebuilding too.