Desert Ice Project: Use Icebergs to fight global warming

Desert Ice Project ( )is aimed to fight global warming (and related desertification / drought, food and water shortage, poverty, unemployment, illiteracy, illegal immigration, terror, violence and conflicts, etc.) by global, complex measures - global initiative / network of local focused solutions to specific regions.


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Desert Ice Project: Use Icebergs to fight global warming

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Must use multiple methods to fight climate change

If the situation is so bad and even going worse, we must not exclude any alternative. The emphasis is on the belief that basically we can react to this knot of problems in two key ways:

1. By intensive greening (more trees and leafs - more absorbed CO2, preserved moisture/WATER, more stable soil, more jobs, more own produced FOOD by the locals, more income and profits, more stable economies and more well living people, improved security, etc.). This step alone won't help, because industrial pollution will go on.

2. By sophisticated filtering and energy efficient systems radically reducing heat-trapping gases that flow in the atmosphere – all shaped in one international system of standards, which does not allow one to take unfair advantage compared to the others.

Only limiting our greenhouse emissions (CCS techniques alone) won't help, because desertification, drought, water/food shortage and following social problems will continue. So, there must be applied both methods. This is a large economic initiative that will mobilize many sectors of business - engineering, construction, banking, security, education, agriculture, science, etc. DIP includes large infrastructure projects, that will attract large contractors, and long chain of subcontractors; taking credits; reconsidering ideas that were underestimated so far.

For instance: directing resources to "green" production, let say solar panels will open a lots of new jobs in this sector, and this will lower the prices, which will make these panels more accessible by more people. And then the government may oblige business and households for their massive usage - for every car / building roof, for every cell phone and laptop, etc. Unlike the geo-engineering projects this operation is the most natural one. It only reverses the "negative geo-engineering" that we already did to some places in our planet - deforestation, pollution, too much land used for grazing, etc. Many of its stages are applied already in different parts of the world. They just need to be connected in one system.

We shouldn't try everything that is suggested to combat global warming. Look at some of the things that have been suggested prior to iceburgs:

-Biofuels that would require huge amounts of land currently to implement on a large enough scale. This idea is a failure, for now.

-Windturbines that, again, use a huge amount of land, cause other unrelated environmental concerns, and do not produce energy reliably.

-Solar power does not produce energy reliably, and is too costly right now to impliment on a large scale.

-Cap and trade tax scemes that will force businesses to conduct manufacturing in developing countries (whos environmental policies are often worse than developed countries), inflating the cost of nearly every product, and not solving the problem at the same time. Not a good idea.

All of these ideas are unworkable right now and would not solve the problem. In fact, trying to impliment these ideas right now would probably make things worse. Before we jump on the iceburg bandwagon we should find out if it will actually work or just cause more problems.

Our best bet right now is to recycle, invest in and use energy efficient tech, buy locally made goods, and demand products that last as long as possible. We should also come up with a way for our economies to provide for us without demanding constant growth. That, and ridding ourselves of the notions that we have to have a bigger house, nicer car, and everything that is new and shiny, to be happy. Getting rid of the rampant consumerism around the world would go a much longer way towards actually solving the problem than some of the half baked scemes out there now.

Desert Ice Project: Use Icebergs to fight global warming

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Environment vs. economics

Many requirements set by environmentalists seem to be too expensive from the economists' point of view. And the opposite - what industry and business want is often unacceptable by the green. This project tries to find the crossing point between, and it should be assessed by both sides. We are almost 7 billion (mankind will pass this threshold at 2012), and except the 2 billion people that struggle every day for basics like water and food, the most of the rest try to live the movie version of the American way of life. Not to mention that we need 2 more planets like Earth to feed our consumer needs (greed?). Every problem is an opportunity in disguise. This is a chance for us, not just for solving the current triple E3 (Environment-Energy-Economy) crisis, but to put international relations / co-operation into a new level.

Desert Ice Project: Use Icebergs to fight global warming

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Use Icebergs

There is continuous argumentation between the supporters and opponents of the idea of manmade global warming, but even if we put aside global warming (and who is to blame for), could anyone propose instead of greening, a better way to stop desert enhancement; to fight erosion, drought and landslides; to give the poor habitants in these areas an opportunity for managing their own lives, but not depending on aids and credits, killing themselves in civil wars, or flooding the developed countries with illegal immigrants? Moreover, after so many centuries of scientific and technological development, do we really admit that the best of what we can do with few icebergs is vodka? When a disaster happens, we cannot simply accept the loss (as we did it so far) - "This is a god’s decision", "That's the mother nature's will"; but we must take some precautionary steps - not only saving people by evacuating them preventively, but to learn to harness this enormous energy, to make it work for us, not against us. We are talking already about terraforming, meaning adapting planets to our biological necessities, in order to further settlement; so even if today these words sound heretically, tomorrow this will be real. First steps are done already – as a result of the unprecedented tsunami disaster in South East Asia that killed almost a quarter of million people from many nationalities, the world got united and took unprecedented measures for relief and restoration, as well as unprecedented initiative for Global warning system. We must ask ourselves: should we take painful lessons every time, or we can learn from the past?

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