Modified:
02 Mar 2010
by Booji

Vote totals:

Yes:

40%

No:

60%

Neutral:

0%

 
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DEBATE: SHOULD THE UK ADOPT THE FRENCH APPROACH TO RELIGION AND BECOME A SECULARIST STATE?

Should the UK become a secularist state and adopt the French model of comeplete seperation of state and religion.





SHOULD THE UK ADOPT THE FRENCH APPROACH TO RELIGION AND BECOME A SECULARIST STATE?


The UK should adopt a secularist model as practiced by the french.


The UK should adopt a secular model as practiced by the French and Germans where there is a compete seperation of the state and religion, with protection given to all faiths and all treated equal with no preference to any one faith. The Church of England should finally be de-established with the Queen no longer being the Supreme Head of the church. Finally the last remaning bishops should beremoved from the House of Lords and from the legislative process of the country.

No, because the French secular model has ultimately undermined religion and the right to freedom of religion to the extent that any form of religious identity in public is criticized, illegal or shunned. Instead of a religious person being able to become a leading politician or Judge, secular ones are promoted. Secular has come to mean atheistic. Religious figures have succeeded in Britain, no matter their religious affiliation. Britain's system has ultimately created real freedom, while France tries to remove create a religious free society. Not all religion can be kept to the confines of a house, such as the issue over the Hijab. A secular Britain would not provide greater religious equality for the ''minority'' faiths at the expense of Christianity, but would damage all faiths. Ultimately, if it isn't broken, then don't try to fix it. If we were to become a secular state the monarchy would have to be replaced, as well as the introduction of a great deal of change, which goes against British historical development.


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SHOULD THE UK ADOPT THE FRENCH APPROACH TO RELIGION AND BECOME A SECULARIST STATE?


Seculerism is a threat to human rights and freedom of expression.


There is no reason why people should not be allowed to practise thier religious views in public. In France they are thinking of banning the bhurka in public. I ask you why when everyone is worried about gender equality has religion been ignored. Are religious people not 'good enough' to qualify for freedom of expression. The church and during the middle ages supressed religion, why are the French any better. Freedom of expression applys to eveyone, and the banning of the bhurka is a threat to the freedoms that are endowed to us from the day of birth.




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1. The UK should adopt a secularist model as practiced by the french.
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The UK should adopt a secular model as practiced by the French and Germans where there is a compete seperation of the state and religion, with protection given to all faiths and all treated equal with no preference to any one faith. The Church of England should finally be de-established with the Queen no longer being the Supreme Head of the church. Finally the last remaning bishops should beremoved from the House of Lords and from the legislative process of the country.

SJH1988

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18:18, 27 October 09

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Karma Score: 400


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No, because the French secular model has ultimately undermined religion and the right to freedom of religion to the extent that any form of religious identity in public is criticized, illegal or shunned. Instead of a religious person being able to become a leading politician or Judge, secular ones are promoted. Secular has come to mean atheistic. Religious figures have succeeded in Britain, no matter their religious affiliation. Britain's system has ultimately created real freedom, while France tries to remove create a religious free society. Not all religion can be kept to the confines of a house, such as the issue over the Hijab. A secular Britain would not provide greater religious equality for the ''minority'' faiths at the expense of Christianity, but would damage all faiths. Ultimately, if it isn't broken, then don't try to fix it. If we were to become a secular state the monarchy would have to be replaced, as well as the introduction of a great deal of change, which goes against British historical development.

jasminademovic

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11:49, 28 October 09

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Karma Score: 60



1. Seculerism is a threat to human rights and freedom of expression.
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There is no reason why people should on t be allowed to practise thier religious views in public. In France they are thinking of banning the bhurka in public. I ask you why when everyone is worried about gender equality has religion been ignored. Are religious people not 'good enough' to qualify for freedom of expression. The church and during the middle ages supressed religion, why are the French any better. Freedom of expression applys to eveyone, and the banning of the bhurka is a threat to the freedoms that are endowed to us from the day of birth.

karfis

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21:51, 21 November 09

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Karma Score: 38



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